From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Thu Apr 1 19:02:46 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA09897 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id CB6A64440E; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:02:31 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id AF44344418; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.lcp.livingston.com (hal.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.12]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0014440E for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from murray (murray.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.15]) by hal.lcp.livingston.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18738; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:02:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401155845.0096cb60@158.222.8.12> X-Sender: brian@158.222.8.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:58:45 -0800 To: Dave Mitton From: Brian Lloyd Subject: RE: Accounting Requirements.... Cc: Paul Raison , aaa-wg@merit.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990318181440.00aa75a0@127.0.0.1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk At 06:14 PM 3/18/99 -0600, Dave Mitton wrote: >Hi Paul, > If your question is in respect to the exact behavior of the RADIUS >Accounting statistics, it would be better posted to the RADIUS WG list, >Look at draft-ietf-radius-ext-03.txt for Interim Accounting support and >Acct-*-Gigawords counter. Dave, I don't want to be RADIUS-centric. Let's talk about accounting as if we were coming at it for the first time with input from lots of other applications. > If you are trying to make a generic requirement on accounting for AAA, >then I aggree that this is a suitable niche requirement to get right in the >statistics requirements. > > I should probably work it into NASREQ too. > > Dave. Good point. Good idea. Brian Lloyd Lucent Technologies brian@lloyd.com 3461 Robin Lane, Suite 1 http://www.livingston.com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.530.676.6513 - voice +1.530.676.3442 - fax O- From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Fri Apr 2 07:41:43 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17091 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 4CC8B44430; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:41:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 31D354442B; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.int.transnexus.com (mail.transnexus.com [209.144.152.22]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id F04274442A for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24830 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 12:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sathomas) (172.16.1.133) by 172.16.1.10 with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 12:41:23 -0000 Message-ID: <001901be7d06$3a1234a0$850110ac@int.transnexus.com> From: "Stephen Thomas" To: , "Brian Lloyd" References: <3.0.6.32.19990331101759.00995100@158.222.8.12> Subject: Re: AAA subgroups (another update) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:27:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Hi Brian, I'm probably making this a bigger deal than it should be (as long as the work gets done ...), but, as a reminder... ____________________________________________________________________ Stephen Thomas +1 404 872 4887 TransNexus, Chief Technical Officer stephen.thomas@transnexus.com ____________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lloyd To: Stephen Thomas Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: AAA subgroups | At 03:04 PM 3/31/99 -0500, you wrote: | >Hi Brian, | > | >I had previously contacted Sue and asked to be included in the | >Bandwidth Brokering sub-group. Don't know if that creates the | >concern about too many cooks for that particular subgroup. | | Probably not. I will go ahead and add you to the list. | | | | Brian Lloyd Lucent Technologies | brian@lloyd.com 3461 Robin Lane, Suite 1 | http://www.livingston.com Cameron Park, CA 95682 | +1.530.676.6513 - voice +1.530.676.3442 - fax O- ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lloyd To: Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 1999 1:17 PM Subject: AAA subgroups (another update) | Subgroups and Subgroup Participants: | | Authentication: | | Michael Jeronimo | Mark L. Stevens | Stuart Jacobs | Glen Zorn | Sudhakar Ramakrishna | Thomas Hardjono | | Accounting: | | Bernard Aboba | Jari Arkko | Gopal Iyengar | Nenad Trifunovic | Nevil Brownlee | Bob Natale | Sudhakar Ramakrishna | Matt Squire | Carter Bullard | | Authorization: | | John Volbrecht | Bernard Aboba | Pat Calhoun | Francis Reichmeyer | George Gross | Lisa Lippert | Stephen Farrell | David Durham | Shai Herzog | Mark Beadles | Bengt Ackzell | ing. L.H.M. Gommans | Sam Hartman | Matt Holdrege | Thomas Hardjono | | Mobile IP: | | Stuart Jacobs | Steven Glass | Charles Perkins | Tom Hiller | Gopal Dommety | Basavaraj Patil | Sam Hartman | Lance Olson | Alex Latzko | Siggy Maier | Steve Hanna | David Durham | Shai Herzog | Francis Reichmeyer | Yavatkar, Raj | | Remote Access: | | Dave Mitton | Glenn Zorn | Matt Holdrege | Yavatkar, Raj | | Voice over IP: | | Pat Calhoun | Ping Pan | J. Rosenberg (get email address) | Leonid Yegoshin | Sudhakar Ramakrishna | Matt Holdrege | Melinda Shore | | Directory Services: | | Ellen Stokes | Jatinder Bali | | | | Brian Lloyd Lucent Technologies | brian@lloyd.com 3461 Robin Lane, Suite 1 | http://www.livingston.com Cameron Park, CA 95682 | +1.530.676.6513 - voice +1.530.676.3442 - fax O- | | | From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Fri Apr 2 12:54:57 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20508 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 889254442A; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:54:41 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 6D0724442E; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from hal.lcp.livingston.com (hal.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.12]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D672A4442A for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from murray (murray.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.15]) by hal.lcp.livingston.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA23848 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:54:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990402095046.0096aa40@158.222.8.12> X-Sender: brian@158.222.8.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:50:46 -0800 To: aaa-wg@merit.edu From: Brian Lloyd Subject: slides from IETF meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk If you produced slides in machine readable format; e.g. powerpoint, text, PDF, etc.; we need them for inclusion in the WG notes. Brian Lloyd Lucent Technologies brian@lloyd.com 3461 Robin Lane, Suite 1 http://www.livingston.com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.530.676.6513 - voice +1.530.676.3442 - fax O- From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Mon Apr 12 12:20:53 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26315 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id EB9FA4441E; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id D0B5E4440E; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from col1.telecom.com.co (col1.telecom.com.co [200.21.200.2]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8E844419 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wcoba.telecom.com.co ([200.21.200.235]) by col1.telecom.com.co (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53737U25000L25000S0V35) with SMTP id co for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:23:23 -0500 Received: by wcoba.telecom.com.co with Microsoft Mail id <01BE840D.4EEF4EE0@wcoba.telecom.com.co>; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE840D.4EEF4EE0@wcoba.telecom.com.co> From: FREDY ALBERTO JURADO To: "'aaa-wg@merit.edu'" Subject: subscribeto mailing list Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:20:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk hello my name is Fredy Jurado Im from Colombia- Bogota i work radius server with 4.3.3 question. How configure chap option? where are documentation about? are there security recomendation? thanks for your help. Fredy Jurado Ing. Sistemas Telecom Colombia From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Mon Apr 12 12:29:55 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26469 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 22DB944419; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 0620644424; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drawbridge.ascend.com (drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC4244419 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw-ext.ascend.com (fw-ext [198.4.92.5]) by drawbridge.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA27655; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russet.ascend.com by fw-ext.ascend.com via smtpd (for drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:28:29 UT Received: from porky (porky.ascend.com [192.207.23.83]) by russet.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA13142; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ascend.com by ascend.com Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990412092821.00c352f0@porky.ascend.com> X-Sender: mhold@porky.ascend.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:28:21 -0700 To: FREDY ALBERTO JURADO From: Matt Holdrege Subject: Re: subscribeto mailing list Cc: aaa-wg@merit.edu In-Reply-To: <01BE840D.4EEF4EE0@wcoba.telecom.com.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.merit.edu id MAA26469 At 11:20 AM 4/11/99 -0500, FREDY ALBERTO JURADO wrote: >hello >my name is Fredy Jurado >Im from Colombia- Bogota >i work radius server with 4.3.3 >question. > >How configure chap option? >where are documentation about? >are there security recomendation? Hello Fredy, This email list is for IETF developers to create new AAA standards. To get help configuring Radius, you may want to check with your NAS vendor. Hola Fredy, Esta lista del email está para que los reveladores del IETF creen nuevos estándares del AAA. Para conseguir el radio de configuración de la ayuda, usted puede desear controlar con su vendedor de la NAS. Matt Holdrege http://www.ascend.com matt@ascend.com From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Wed Apr 14 00:15:09 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25670 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id DED6544438; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id B9D3844439; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hal.lcp.livingston.com (hal.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.12]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD0044438 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from murray (murray.lcp.livingston.com [158.222.8.15]) by hal.lcp.livingston.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA03841 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990413151906.00972b30@158.222.8.12> X-Sender: brian@158.222.8.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:19:06 -0700 To: aaa-wg@merit.edu From: Brian Lloyd Subject: AAA subgroups (YAU) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Once more, I have updated the subgroup participants. You will notice this time that the first name in each group has the label "facilitator." This person will function as the coordinator for the activities of the subgroup, much in the fashion of a working group chaircritter. In addition, Merit is setting up mailing lists for each group (with the exception of the authorization group which already has a mailing list courtesy of Pat Calhoun). The exact names of the mailing lists will be posted here shortly. Subgroups and Subgroup Participants: Authentication: Mark L. Stevens (facilitator) Michael Jeronimo Stuart Jacobs Glen Zorn Sudhakar Ramakrishna Thomas Hardjono Ricky Charlet Ofer Avineri Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Accounting: Bernard Aboba (facilitator) Jari Arkko Gopal Iyengar Nenad Trifunovic Nevil Brownlee Bob Natale Sudhakar Ramakrishna Matt Squire Carter Bullard Dotan Wall Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Authorization: John Volbrecht (facilitator) Bernard Aboba Pat Calhoun Francis Reichmeyer George Gross Lisa Lippert Stephen Farrell David Durham Shai Herzog Mark Beadles Bengt Ackzell ing. L.H.M. Gommans Sam Hartman Matt Holdrege Thomas Hardjono Noriko Hata Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Mobile IP: Charles Perkins (facilitator) Stuart Jacobs Steven Glass Tom Hiller Gopal Dommety Basavaraj Patil Brian Lloyd Login Support and Content Services: Alex Latzko (facilitator) Arthur Bierer Sam Hartman Lance Olson Siggy Maier Steve Hanna Brian Lloyd Bandwidth Broker: Sue Hares (facilitator) David Durham Shai Herzog Francis Reichmeyer Yavatkar, Raj Stephen Thomas Noriko Hata Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Remote Access: Dave Mitton (facilitator) Glenn Zorn Matt Holdrege Yavatkar, Raj Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Voice over IP: Ping Pan (facilitator) Pat Calhoun Jonathan Rosenberg Leonid Yegoshin Sudhakar Ramakrishna Matt Holdrege Melinda Shore Kai Yokohama Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Directory Services: Jatinder Bali (facilitator) Ellen Stokes Joseph Gab Paul Krumviede Brian Lloyd Brian Lloyd Lucent Technologies brian@lloyd.com 3461 Robin Lane, Suite 1 http://www.livingston.com Cameron Park, CA 95682 +1.530.676.6513 - voice +1.530.676.3442 - fax From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Tue Apr 27 10:05:47 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20770 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 2CF9E4444C; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 0C4044447F; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3B44444C for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctit.utwente.nl (utip064.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.16.21]) by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03987; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:05:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3725C410.C6302351@ctit.utwente.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:05:04 +0200 From: Aiko Pras X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aaa-wg@merit.edu Cc: Aiko Pras Subject: Status of "Introduction to Accounting Management" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Hi I'm relatively new to this group and haven't seen a lot of discussion on this list the last month. What I would like to know is the status of the "Introduction to Accounting Management" . The Internet draft is from 6 August 1998, which is more than 6 month ago. Are people working on a new draft, or will the draft be removed? Thanks Aiko From owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Wed Apr 28 11:03:12 1999 Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by nic.merit.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07138 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id E51C444466; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@merit.edu Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id C0F784447B; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E380F44466 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lmf.lmf.ericsson.se (umail.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.11.2]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA04642; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:02:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lmf.ericsson.se by lmf.lmf.ericsson.se (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA25598; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:02:08 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <372722EF.AA356E4@lmf.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:02:07 +0300 From: Jari Arkko Organization: Oy L M Ericsson Ab X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiko Pras Cc: aaa-wg@merit.edu, bernarda@microsoft.com Subject: Re: Status of "Introduction to Accounting Management" References: <3725C410.C6302351@ctit.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aaa-bof@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Aiko wrote: >I'm relatively new to this group and haven't seen a lot of >discussion on this list the last month. What I would like to >know is the status of the "Introduction to Accounting Management" >. The current plan in the Accounting Subgroup is to produce the following documents, partly (1&3) based on the existing drafts: >1) Accounting: A Management Framework > Defines what 'accounting' means, points out the things > one should consider when designing a system which > uses accounting. (Makes the point that accounting > requires a system-wide view, it's not just a protocol). > >2) Accounting: Attributes, Record and File Formats > Surveys existing IETF and ITU accounting documents, > proposes an extensible set of generalised attributes, > together with record and file formates for handling them. > >3) Accounting: Requirements for Internet Accounting > Sets out requirements for accounting within AAA, > in the context of drafts 1) and 2) above. Jari -- Jari Arkko, Oy L M Ericsson Ab, 02420 Jorvas, Finland. Tel +358 9 2992480 Fax +358 9 2993052. GSM +358 40 5079256. E-Mail: Jari.Arkko@ericsson.com Private WWW: http://www.iki.fi/jar. Standard disclaimers apply.