From philip@faust.pdmi.ras.ru Wed May 6 05:42:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from almond.bmc.com (mail-gw1.bmc.com [198.64.253.22]) by amethyst.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14747 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:42:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by almond.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26155 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:40:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from firewall.bmc.com(192.245.162.250) by almond.bmc.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025416; Wed, 6 May 98 05:38:38 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dresden.bmc.com (8.8.5/8.8.6) id FAA11953 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tangelo.bmc.com(172.17.7.166) by dresden.bmc.com via smap (3.2) id xma011081; Wed, 6 May 98 05:37:02 -0500 Received: from dorothy.peer.com (dorothy.peer.com [192.146.153.65]) by tangelo.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id FAA16069 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:37:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cashew.bmc.com (cashew.bmc.com [172.19.0.100]) by dorothy.peer.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA07922 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 03:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cashew.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12815 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 05:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wg.pu.ru(193.124.85.195) by cashew.bmc.com via smap (V2.0) id xma012802; Wed, 6 May 98 05:30:20 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by wg.pu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id KAA19439 for agentx@peer.com; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:30:20 GMT Received: (from philip@localhost) by faust.pdmi.ras.ru (8.8.8/8.8.2) id OAA00544 for agentx@peer.com; Wed, 6 May 1998 14:30:34 +0400 From: "Philip N. Romanov" Message-Id: <199805061030.OAA00544@faust.pdmi.ras.ru> Subject: Question To: agentx@peer.com Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:30:34 +0400 (MSD) Return-Receipt-To: romanov@pdmi.ras.ru Reply-To: romanov@pdmi.ras.ru X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Greetings to all, While reading your SNMP multiplexing standard I came to the following question: You put substancial efforts to "compressed" OID representations but there seems to be a natural way to achieve better "comression rate". Just note that OIDs with big(>255) subidentifiers are really rare (it is even possible to perform statistic analysis): +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | n_subid | fl | as before | as before | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | subid #1 | subid #2 | subid #3 | ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ... | subid #fl - 1 | modulo 4 padding | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | sub-identifier #fl | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | sub-identifier #fl + 1 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ . . . +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | sub-identifier #n_subid | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Instead of prefix we can store the fl ("first long") field - number of the first subidentifier greater then 255. N_subid is a total number of subidentifiers. This format promises to be more "compressing" than the one you chose for AgentX OID representation and especially effective in cases of long variable instances with lots of indexing. Just interesting: did you consider it as a possible alternative when planned the AgentX stuff? Why it was declined? Sincerely, Philip Romanov, St. Petersburg, Russia From rpresuhn@dorothy.peer.com Wed May 6 12:15:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from almond.bmc.com (mail-gw1.bmc.com [198.64.253.22]) by amethyst.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19718 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:15:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by almond.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18328 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:13:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from firewall.bmc.com(192.245.162.250) by almond.bmc.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018129; Wed, 6 May 98 12:13:16 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dresden.bmc.com (8.8.5/8.8.6) id MAA06290 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:12:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tangelo.bmc.com(172.17.7.166) by dresden.bmc.com via smap (3.2) id xma005355; Wed, 6 May 98 12:11:56 -0500 Received: from dorothy.peer.com (dorothy.peer.com [192.146.153.65]) by tangelo.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21001 for ; Wed, 6 May 1998 12:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rpresuhn@localhost) by dorothy.peer.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id KAA09066 for agentx@peer.com; Wed, 6 May 1998 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Presuhn Message-Id: <199805061710.KAA09066@dorothy.peer.com> To: agentx@peer.com Subject: Re: Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - > From: "Philip N. Romanov" > Subject: Question > To: agentx@peer.com > Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:30:34 +0400 (MSD) ... > This format promises to be more "compressing" than the one you chose for > AgentX OID representation and especially effective in cases of long variable > instances with lots of indexing. Just interesting: did you consider it as a > possible alternative when planned the AgentX stuff? Why it was declined? ... I don't recall this specific algorithm being discussed. If compactness of representation had been the group's primary concern, then the BER (or "bit twiddled BER") encoding of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs might have made as much or more sense. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy Presuhn Email: rpresuhn@bmc.com http://www.bmc.com Voice: +1 408 616-3100 BMC Software, Inc. 965 Stewart Drive Fax: +1 408 616-3101 Sunnyvale, California 94086 USA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In accordance with the BMC Communications Systems Use and Security Policy, I explicitly state that although my affiliation with BMC may be apparent, implied, or provided, my opinions are not necessarily those of BMC Software and that all external representations on behalf of BMC must first be cleared with a member of "the top management team." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bnatale@nips.acec.com Thu May 7 08:57:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from almond.bmc.com (mail-gw1.bmc.com [198.64.253.22]) by amethyst.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05676 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:57:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by almond.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12524 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:56:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from firewall.bmc.com(192.245.162.250) by almond.bmc.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011893; Thu, 7 May 98 08:54:01 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dresden.bmc.com (8.8.5/8.8.6) id IAA28889 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:53:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tangelo.bmc.com(172.17.7.166) by dresden.bmc.com via smap (3.2) id xma027442; Thu, 7 May 98 08:52:32 -0500 Received: from dorothy.peer.com (dorothy.peer.com [192.146.153.65]) by tangelo.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA17288; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:52:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cashew.bmc.com (cashew.bmc.com [172.19.0.100]) by dorothy.peer.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA01510 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 06:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cashew.bmc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29492 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 08:48:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net(38.8.14.2) by cashew.bmc.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029475; Thu, 7 May 98 08:48:29 -0500 Received: from [192.152.208.5] (helo=nips.acec.com) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0yXR25-0001Zs-00; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:48:22 -0400 Received: from bnatale by nips.acec.com (5.65/3.2.083191-ACE*COMM) id AA24326; Thu, 7 May 1998 09:50:32 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980507094927.0097d5c0@nips.acec.com> X-Sender: natale@nips.acec.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:49:27 -0400 To: winsnmp@mailbag.jf.intel.com, agentx@peer.com From: Bob Natale Subject: FYI: AgentX and WinSNMP articles in Simple Times Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 15:19:09 +0200 From: aiko pras Subject: New issue of the Simple-Times Dear readers of the Simple-Times The march 1998 issue of the Simple-Times can now be downloaded from http://www.simple-times.org/ This issue contains: - An Overview of the AgentX Protocol by: Matt White & Smitha Gudar - WinSNMP v2.0 - Evolution of an industry-standard API by: Bob Natale - A new column "Questions Answered" - Standards Summary - Calendar and Announcements - Editor's Comment. 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This non-profit bakeoff will allow SNMPv3/AgentX developers and vendors to find and fix bugs in their SNMPv3 and/or AgentX implementations and help identify any issues with the proposed standards (RFCs 2257, 2271, 2272, 2273, 2274, 2275). When: SNMPv3 session: Mon-Wed, July 20-22, 1998, 9:30AM - 6:00 PM AgentX session: Thu-Fri, July 23-24, 1998 9:30AM - 6:00PM Where: BMC Software 965 Stewart Drive Sunnyvale, California 94086 Who to contact: Lauren Heintz (voice) 408-616-3169 (fax) 408-616-3101 Lauren_Heintz@bmc.com NOTE: Lauren will be out of office during the week June 1-5. Testing agenda: The respective working group (WG) chairs are responsible for preparing and publishing appropriate test plans by June 30, 1998. Fee: $100.00 per person, per day. What's Included: BMC Software will provide testing facilities, including one private 10BaseT network drop and ten IP addresses for each company, and approximately a 3 foot square area of table space (minimum). The network will not be connected to the Internet, so please plan for your email and FTP needs accordingly. Telephones will be available. Hot beverages, sodas and water. On-site morning and afternoon snacks, and lunch. Mutual non-disclosure agreement that each company/attendee must agree to, and sign, prior to entering the testing facilities. What you provide: One or more attendees. SNMPv3 and/or AgentX implementation(s) and test station (hardware), including a 10BaseT transceiver. Signed mutual non-disclosure agreement (provided upon request) for each attendee. You must use the MNDA BMC provides. All lodging and transportation and other expenses for your needs. How to register: Call Lauren Heintz to verify space availability, then send payment to be received by July 3, 1998, to Lauren Heintz at BMC Software at the above address along with names and phone numbers and email addresses of all attendees, and the number of days and actual dates of attendance. Also indicate the type of implementation and a list of equipment you will bring. Please indicate if you have special needs. Make checks payable to: BMC Software. Space is limited, so reserve early. Cancellations: Cancellations prior to July 3, 1998 are entitled to full refund. Cancellations on or after July 3, 1998 are entitled to 50% refund. Cancellations on or after July 13, 1998 receive no refund. Airport info: Sunnyvale is served by both the San Jose and San Francisco airports. You are responsible for all your transportation arrangements. We will provide directions to the Sunnyvale testing site upon request. Lodging: You are responsible for your own lodging arrangements. Residence Inn by Marriott, Silicon Valley II, 408-720-8893, is less than a five minute walk to BMC. Corporate rates start at approximately $175.00/night. Other hotels (not walking distance) abound in the Sunnyvale and Santa Clara areas with widely varying rates. Shipping/Receiving: With prior arrangement, you may ship your test stations to the BMC testing site up to one week in advance. BMC will provide storage for reasonably-sized test stations and their containers during the bakeoffs and one week prior. BMC cannot accept shipments requiring payment on receipt, nor can BMC fund return shipments before, during or after the bakeoffs. Return shipments may be sent directly from the BMC site if adequate funding is pre-arranged. To arrange for your shipping and receiving needs, please contact Lauren Heintz (see above). Disclaimers: BMC does not assume responsibility for anything not explicitly stated above, nor does BMC offer any implied warranty of fitness or guarantee of any service. BMC is not responsible for conducting the actual bakeoff tests or providing the SNMPv3 and/or AgentX test cases. BMC cannot accept responsibility for damage incurred to property on, or shipped to or from, BMC property. BMC also reserves the right to dispose of abandoned or unclaimed property after July 27, 1998, as it sees fit. BMC cannot accept responsibility for determining the exact cost of the bakeoffs, nor can BMC offer prorated refunds based on actual expenses incurred. In the event of unusual circumstances, BMC reserves the right to cancel this event at any time with a full (prior to July 20) or pro-rated (on or after July 20) refund of registration fees due to all registered attendees and without bearing or incurring any other expense or claim. BMC will make every reasonable attempt to ensure this event transpires as stated above. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lauren Heintz BMC Software, Inc. 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