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Dear BMWG Members,
I hope my e-mail finds you well. Please find below a link to the latest
update of the draft I've been working on:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-georgescu-bmwg-ipv6-tran-tech-benchmarking
-01
The biggest change and probably the most debatable is the addition of the
Delay variation (jitter) subsection under Benchmarking tests (Section 6.3),
following the comments received during the IETF92 meeting. I would like to
take this opportunity to thank all the people that supported and provided
feedback for this draft so far and to ask for more :).
Best regards,
Marius
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Thanks for your efforts here, Marius!
There are several revised drafts on our pages,
and readership is a key aspect of participation.
Let's all commit to review a draft-a-week leading
up to Prague.
Also, the draft agenda is posted in the usual place.
regards,
Al
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The biggest change and probably the most debatable is the addition of the D=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group of the IETF.
Title : Benchmarking IPv6 Neighbor Cache Behavior
Authors : William Cerveny
Ron Bonica
Filename : draft-ietf-bmwg-ipv6-nd-00.txt
Pages : 10
Date : 2015-07-02
Abstract:
This document is a benchmarking instantiation of RFC 6583:
"Operational Neighbor Discovery Problems" [RFC6583]. It describes a
general testing procedure and measurements that can be performed to
evaluate how the problems described in RFC 6583 may impact the
functionality or performance of intermediate nodes.
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-ipv6-nd/
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Hi Marius,
Attached, please find a few suggestions for your draft.
search for ACM:
Thanks for seeking and implementing the many comments so far!
regards,
Al
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Dear BMWG Members,
I hope my e-mail finds you well. Please find below a link to the latest upd=
ate of the draft I've been working on:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-georgescu-bmwg-ipv6-tran-tech-benchmarkin=
g-01
The biggest change and probably the most debatable is the addition of the D=
elay variation (jitter) subsection under Benchmarking tests (Section 6.3), =
following the comments received during the IETF92 meeting. I would like to=
take this opportunity to thank all the people that supported and provided =
feedback for this draft so far and to ask for more :).
Best regards,
Marius
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Hello Al=2C
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I noticed you are using it in other contexts as well (e=2Eg=2E VNF draft=
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In the spirit of a draft-a-week=2C here are my comments for the draft ht=
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Best regards=2C
Marius
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=3E I typed =22scaleability=22 late last night=2C and spell check didn=27=
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=3E Subject=3A RE=3A =5Bbmwg=5D I-D Update
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=3E Dear Al=2C
=3E =
=3E Thank you very much for the very detailed review=2E All the comments=
are relevant and I will attempt to answer them in the next version=2E
=3E One question though=2C why do you use the spelling =22scaleability=22=
=3F
=3E =
=3E Best regards=2C
=3E Marius
=3E =
=3E On 07/09/15=2C =22MORTON=2C ALFRED C (AL)=22 =3Cacmorton=40att=2Ecom=
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=3E Hi Marius=2C
=3E =
=3E Attached=2C please find a few suggestions for your draft=2E
=3E search for ACM=3A
=3E =
=3E Thanks for seeking and implementing the many comments so far!
=3E regards=2C
=3E Al
=3E (as a participant)
=3E =
=3E From=3A bmwg =5Bmailto=3Abmwg-bounces=40ietf=2Eorg=5D =3Cbmwg-bounce=
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=3E To=3A bmwg=40ietf=2Eorg
=3E Subject=3A =5Bbmwg=5D I-D Update
=3E =
=3E Dear BMWG Members=2C
=3E =
=3E I hope my e-mail finds you well=2E Please find below a link to the l=
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=3E The biggest change and probably the most debatable is the addition o=
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=98=BA=2E
=3E =
=3E Best regards=2C
=3E Marius
=3E =
=3E =
=3E =
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Hi Jacob and Lucien,
Please find my comments on
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bmwg-dcbench-terminology-00
>=20
below, Sections 1, 2, and 3, mostly on Latency section (ACM:)
Let's chat when we can,=20
regards,
Al
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1. Introduction
Traffic patterns in the data center are not uniform and are contently
changing. They are dictated by the nature and variety of applications
utilized in the data center. It can be largely east-west traffic
flows in one data center and north-south in another, while some may
combine both. Traffic patterns can be bursty in nature and contain
many-to-one, many-to-many, or one-to-many flows. Each flow may also
be small and latency sensitive or large and throughput sensitive
while containing a mix of UDP and TCP traffic. All of which can
coexist in a single cluster and flow through a single network device
all at the same time. Benchmarking of network devices have long used
RFC1242, RFC2432, RFC2544, RFC2889 and RFC3918. These benchmarks have
largely been focused around various latency attributes and max
throughput of the Device Under Test being benchmarked. These
standards are good at measuring theoretical max throughput,
forwarding rates and latency under testing conditions, but to not
ACM: s/to/do/
represent real traffic patterns that may affect these networking
ACM: s/real/production/
devices.
The following defines a set of definitions, metrics and terminologies
ACM: s/following/following document/
including congestion scenarios, switch buffer analysis and redefines
basic definitions in order to represent a wide mix of traffic
conditions.
...
1.1. Requirements Language
The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
"SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [6].
ACM:
We usually add some text here to clarify how the these words apply to testi=
ng
specifications - see my comments on draft-georgescu-bmwg ...
1.2. Definition format
Term to be defined. (e.g., Latency)
Definition: The specific definition for the term.
Discussion: A brief discussion about the term, it's application and
any restrictions on measurement procedures.
Measurement Units: Methodology for the measure and units used to
report measurements of this term, if applicable.
2. Latency
2.1. Definition
ACM: The definition needs to be very concise, see below.
Latency is a the amount of time it takes a frame to transit the DUT.=20
The Latency interval can be assessed between different combinations
of events, irrespectively of the type of switching device (bit
forwarding aka cut-through or store forward type of device)
Traditionally the latency measurement definitions are:=20
FILO (First In Last Out) The time interval starting when the end of
the first bit of the input frame reaches the input port and ending
when the last bit of the output frame is seen on the output port
FIFO (First In First Out) The time interval starting when the end of
the first bit of the input frame reaches the input port and ending
when the start of the first bit of the output frame is seen on the
output port
LILO (Last In Last Out) The time interval starting when the last bit
of the input frame reaches the input port and the last bit of the
output frame is seen on the output port
LIFO (Last In First Out) The time interval starting when the last
bit of the input frame reaches the input port and ending when the
first bit of the output frame is seen on the output port.
Another possibility to summarize the four different definitions above
is to refer to the bit position as they normally occur: input to
output.
FILO is FL (First bit Last bit) FIFO is FF (First bit First
bit) LILO is LL (Last bit Last bit) LIFO is LF (Last bit First bit)
This definition explained in this section in context of data center
switching benchmarking is in lieu of the previous definition of
Latency defined in RFC 1242, section 3.8 and is quoted here:
For store and forward devices: The time interval starting when the
last bit of the input frame reaches the input port and ending when
the first bit of the output frame is seen on the output port.
For bit forwarding devices: The time interval starting when the end
of the first bit of the input frame reaches the input port and ending
when the start of the first bit of the output frame is seen on the
output port.
2.2 Discussion
ACM: Comment, in reality, most of the above section is background and shoul=
d=20
appear in the Discussion section. The Definition should briefly expla=
in
FILO, and give most of the paragraph below. In other words, the=20
definition needs to be concise, like RFC 1242, but without the options.
FILO is the most important measuring definition. Any type of switches
ACM: s/Any type/All types/
MUST be measured with the FILO mechanism: FILO will include the
ACM: s/mechanism/time stamps/
latency of the switch and the latency of the frame as well as the
serialization delay.=20
ACM: Question: what's the difference between the latency of the frame
and the serialization delay??
=09
It is a picture of the 'whole' latency going
through the DUT.=20
ACM: Suggest to replace this sentence with the first sentence of the sectio=
n:
"Latency is a the amount of time it takes a frame to transit the DUT."
For applications, which are latency sensitive and
can function with initial bytes of the frame, FIFO MAY be an
additional type of measuring to supplement FILO. =20
ACM: Need and example of the above, it might be better described some
other way (e.g., not using the term "application")
LIFO mechanism can be used with store forward type of switches but
ACM: s/store/store and/
not with cut-through type of switches, as it will provide negative
latency values for larger packet sizes. Therefore this mechanism MUST
NOT be used when comparing latencies of two different DUTs.=20
ACM: Even if the DUTs/switches are both store and forward?
2.3 Measurement Units
The measuring methods to use for benchmarking purposes are as follow:
1) FILO MUST be used as a measuring method, as this will include the
latency of the packet; and today the application commonly need to
read the whole packet to process the information and take an action.=20
2) FIFO MAY be used for certain applications able to proceed data as
=20
the first bits arrive (FPGA for example)
3) LIFO MUST not be used, because it subtracts the latency of the
packet; unlike all the other methods.
3 Jitter
3.1 Definition
ACM: Comment
The feedback at the last meeting was that we need BOTH definitions from
RFC 5481, that is PDV and IPDV. Let's use that reference RFC and build from
there.
The definition of Jitter is covered extensively in RFC 3393. This
definition is not meant to replace that definition, but it is meant
to provide guidance of use for data center network devices.=20
The use of Jitter is in according with the variation delay definition
from RFC 3393:
The second meaning has to do with the variation of a metric (e.g.,
delay) with respect to some reference metric (e.g., average delay or
minimum delay). This meaning is frequently used by computer
scientists and frequently (but not always) refers to variation in
delay.
Even with the reference to RFC 3393, there are many definitions of
"jitter" possible. The one selected for Data Center Benchmarking is
closest to RFC 3393.
3.2 Discussion
Jitter can be measured in different scenarios:-packet to packet delay
variation-delta between min and max packet delay variation for all
packets sent.
3.3 Measurement Units
The jitter MUST be measured when sending packets of the same size.
Jitter MUST be measured as packet to packet delay variation and delta
between min and max packet delay variation of all packets sent. A
histogram MAY be provided as a population of packets measured per
latency or latency buckets.
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Subject: [bmwg] Question about using the IPv6 benchmarking address space
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Hi bmwg,
We would like to use addresses from the IPv6 benchmarking prefix on an =
independent test network and wonder if there are issues
we have not thought of.
A little background on what we're doing: in OS X El Capitan we =
introduced a NAT64 mode for the Mac's Internet Sharing feature
to allow iOS developers to test their applications for IPv6 support. =
Using this, you can share your IPv4 internet connectivity
(e.g. from ethernet) to a newly created Wi-Fi network that only supports =
IPv6, and the Mac will perform NAT64+DNS64.
Currently the internal addresses of that network are using the Teredo =
prefix (2001::/64) and we have been advised to use
something that is not treated differently by RFC 6724 (Default Address =
Selection for IPv6).
We thought that since this is a testing network and that those addresses =
never leave that link, using the benchmarking prefix
from RFC5180(+ errata) (2001:2/32) would be reasonable. We thought that =
using 2001:2:a:bb1e/64 as our network prefix
would be appropriate, as "a:bb1e" looks a bit like "apple". Note that =
this is the prefix advertised by RA to the Wi-Fi network,
it is not the prefix of the NAT64 translation.
Does anyone think there could be any issues with this?
Thanks,
David Schinazi
Apple CoreOS Networking Engineer
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Hello Al,
First, thank you for writing this draft. It is an excellent guideline for u=
s who are working in VNF Benchmarking area.
In the BMWG meeting session yesterday, there were some interesting discussi=
ons around whether to consider the CPU / memory utilization (and similar pa=
rameters) as test configurations or test results. I think we couldn't discu=
ss this in detail due to time constrain, thus I thought of bringing this up=
in the list to have your and other experts' views.
My own understanding is, for VNF benchmarking specifically, this issue beco=
mes little delicate. Considering the fact that VNF Black-box is reliant on =
certain soft integration and soft partitioning of the underlying hardware, =
all benchmark results are dependent on the load imposed over the entire har=
dware, in addition to be dependent on the load directed towards the VNF spe=
cifically. For example, if a VNF is masked over four core, and the particul=
ar hardware provides 12 more core, VNF's response on a fixed load condition=
will vary while the other cores are put under different load conditions. N=
ow at this point we can consider creating certain fixed type of load profil=
es (let's say, a combination % of compute, storage and networking load) ove=
r remaining hardware, and benchmark the VNF under Test against its own load=
conditions as originally planned. However, during the real deployment, the=
se fixed type of load profiles (combination % of compute, storage and netwo=
rking load) don't correlate well unless we qualify every VNF's performance =
profiles against these parameters. So this essentially means that even thou=
gh a benchmark data is produced for the VNF for the particular type of hard=
ware-part and for certain load conditions over remaining hardware, the depl=
oyment folks are not clear on how to leverage this intelligence especially =
when they are planning to deploy the other VNFs in the remaining hardware.
I'm not sure what will be an appropriate way to solve this. Measuring CPU /=
memory utilization (and similar parameters for the shared assets) may be a=
n option, but not sure if this truly aligns with the black-box benchmarking=
methodologies. Kindly advice.
Warm Regards,
Saurabh
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Hello Al,
First, thank you for writing this draft. It is an ex=
cellent guideline for us who are working in VNF Benchmarking area.
In the BMWG meeting session yesterday, there were so=
me interesting discussions around whether to consider the CPU / memory util=
ization (and similar parameters) as test configurations or test results. I =
think we couldn’t discuss this in
detail due to time constrain, thus I thought of bringing this up in the li=
st to have your and other experts’ views.
My own understanding is, for VNF benchmarking specif=
ically, this issue becomes little delicate. Considering the fact that VNF B=
lack-box is reliant on certain soft integration and soft partitioning of th=
e underlying hardware, all benchmark
results are dependent on the load imposed over the entire hardware, in add=
ition to be dependent on the load directed towards the VNF specifically. Fo=
r example, if a VNF is masked over four core, and the particular hardware p=
rovides 12 more core, VNF’s response
on a fixed load condition will vary while the other cores are put under di=
fferent load conditions. Now at this point we can consider creating certain=
fixed type of load profiles (let’s say, a combination % of compute, =
storage and networking load) over remaining
hardware, and benchmark the VNF under Test against its own load conditions=
as originally planned. However, during the real deployment, these fixed ty=
pe of load profiles (combination % of compute, storage and networking load)=
don’t correlate well unless we
qualify every VNF’s performance profiles against these parameters. S=
o this essentially means that even though a benchmark data is produced for =
the VNF for the particular type of hardware-part and for certain load condi=
tions over remaining hardware, the deployment
folks are not clear on how to leverage this intelligence especially when t=
hey are planning to deploy the other VNFs in the remaining hardware. =
I’m not sure what will be an appropriate way t=
o solve this. Measuring CPU / memory utilization (and similar parameters fo=
r the shared assets) may be an option, but not sure if this truly aligns wi=
th the black-box benchmarking methodologies.
Kindly advice.
Warm Regards,
Saurabh
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Just to clarify=2C the IPv6 prefix mentioned in RFC5180(+errata) is 2001=
=3A2=3A=3A/48 and in my understanding does not include the the prefix 20=
01=3A2=3Aa=3Abb1e=3A=3A/64=2E However=2C I don=27t think there=27s any i=
ssue with using it in the context of an isolated testing environment=2E=A0=
Marius
On 07/24/15=2C David Schinazi =3Cdschinazi=40apple=2Ecom=3E wrote=3A
=3E =
=3E Hi bmwg=2C
=3E =
=3E We would like to use addresses from the IPv6 benchmarking prefix on =
an independent test network and wonder if there are issues
=3E we have not thought of=2E
=3E =
=3E A little background on what we=27re doing=3A in OS X El Capitan we i=
ntroduced a NAT64 mode for the Mac=27s Internet Sharing feature
=3E to allow iOS developers to test their applications for IPv6 support=2E=
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Thanks for clarifying Marius, I must have misread /32 instead of /48.
In that case, let me amend my question to use a prefix like this =
instead:
2001:2:0:aab1/64
(named after our NASDAQ symbol AAPL)
Thanks,
David
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:25, GEORGESCU LIVIU MARIUS =
wrote:
>=20
> Just to clarify, the IPv6 prefix mentioned in RFC5180(+errata) is =
2001:2::/48 and in my understanding does not include the the prefix =
2001:2:a:bb1e::/64. However, I don't think there's any issue with using =
it in the context of an isolated testing environment.=20
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> Marius
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> On 07/24/15, David Schinazi wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi bmwg,
>>=20
>> We would like to use addresses from the IPv6 benchmarking prefix on =
an independent test network and wonder if there are issues
>> we have not thought of.
>>=20
>> A little background on what we're doing: in OS X El Capitan we =
introduced a NAT64 mode for the Mac's Internet Sharing feature
>> to allow iOS developers to test their applications for IPv6 support. =
Using this, you can share your IPv4 internet connectivity
>> (e.g. from ethernet) to a newly created Wi-Fi network that only =
supports IPv6, and the Mac will perform NAT64+DNS64.
>> Currently the internal addresses of that network are using the Teredo =
prefix (2001::/64) and we have been advised to use
>> something that is not treated differently by RFC 6724 (Default =
Address Selection for IPv6).
>> We thought that since this is a testing network and that those =
addresses never leave that link, using the benchmarking prefix
>> from RFC5180(+ errata) (2001:2/32) would be reasonable. We thought =
that using 2001:2:a:bb1e/64 as our network prefix
>> would be appropriate, as "a:bb1e" looks a bit like "apple". Note that =
this is the prefix advertised by RA to the Wi-Fi network,
>> it is not the prefix of the NAT64 translation.
>>=20
>> Does anyone think there could be any issues with this?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> David Schinazi
>> Apple CoreOS Networking Engineer
>>=20
>>=20
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>> bmwg@ietf.org
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Thanks for clarifying Marius, I must have misread /32 instead =
of /48.In that case, let me amend my question to use a =
prefix like this instead:
2001:2:0:aab1/64(named =
after our NASDAQ symbol AAPL)
Thanks,
David
Just to clarify, the =
IPv6 prefix mentioned in RFC5180(+errata) is 2001:2::/48 and in my =
understanding does not include the the prefix 2001:2:a:bb1e::/64. =
However, I don't think there's any issue with using it in the context of =
an isolated testing environment.
Marius
On 07/24/15, David =
Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> wrote:Hi bmwg,
We would like to use =
addresses from the IPv6 benchmarking prefix on an independent test =
network and wonder if there are issues
we have not thought =
of.
A little background on what we're =
doing: in OS X El Capitan we introduced a NAT64 mode for the Mac's =
Internet Sharing feature
to allow iOS developers to test =
their applications for IPv6 support. Using this, you can share your IPv4 =
internet connectivity
(e.g. from ethernet) to a newly =
created Wi-Fi network that only supports IPv6, and the Mac will perform =
NAT64+DNS64.
Currently the internal addresses of that =
network are using the Teredo prefix (2001::/64) and we have been advised =
to use
something that is not treated differently by RFC =
6724 (Default Address Selection for IPv6).
We thought that =
since this is a testing network and that those addresses never leave =
that link, using the benchmarking prefix
from RFC5180(+ =
errata) (2001:2/32) would be reasonable. We thought that using =
2001:2:a:bb1e/64 as our network prefix
would be =
appropriate, as "a:bb1e" looks a bit like "apple". Note that this is the =
prefix advertised by RA to the Wi-Fi network,
it is not =
the prefix of the NAT64 translation.
Does =
anyone think there could be any issues with this?
Thanks,
David Schinazi
Apple =
CoreOS Networking Engineer
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Subject: Re: [bmwg] Question about using the IPv6 benchmarking address space
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The amended prefix is within the specifications of RFC5180=2E But again=2C=
I don=27t know if it=27s really necessary to change the prefix=2E I am =
not sure=2C but my guess is that IANA allocated the prefix to prevent an=
y of the benchmarking traffic reaching the Internet=2E =
That being said=2C I don=27t see any problem with using 2001=3A2=3Aa=3Ab=
b1e=3A=3A/64 in an isolated test environment=2E
However=2C if respecting the recommendations of RFC5180 is desired=2C yo=
u should also consider the following note in RFC5180=3A
=22 Note=3A Similar to RFC 2544(https=3A//tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/html/rfc254=
4) avoiding the use of RFC 1918(https=3A//tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/html/rfc191=
8) address space for benchmarking tests=2C this document does not recomm=
end the use of RFC 4193(https=3A//tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/html/rfc4193) =5B4(=
https=3A//tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/html/rfc5180=23ref-4)=5D (Unique Local Addr=
esses) in order to minimize the possibility of conflicts with operationa=
l traffic=2E=22
This is relevant for the discussion in v6ops about using ULA=2C which is=
not recommended by RFC5180=2E =
Marius
On 07/25/15=2C David Schinazi =3Cdschinazi=40apple=2Ecom=3E wrote=3A
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=3E Thanks for clarifying Marius=2C I must have misread /32 instead of /=
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=3E In that case=2C let me amend my question to use a prefix like this i=
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=3E =3E Just to clarify=2C the IPv6 prefix mentioned in RFC5180(+errata)=
is 2001=3A2=3A=3A/48 and in my understanding does not include the the p=
refix 2001=3A2=3Aa=3Abb1e=3A=3A/64=2E However=2C I don=27t think there=27=
s any issue with using it in the context of an isolated testing environm=
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tan we introduced a NAT64 mode for the Mac=27s Internet Sharing feature
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support=2E Using this=2C you can share your IPv4 internet connectivity
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=3E =3E =3E Currently the internal addresses of that network are using t=
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We thought that using 2001=3A2=3Aa=3Abb1e/64 as our network prefix
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apple=22=2E Note that this is the prefix advertised by RA to the Wi-Fi n=
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Hi Saurabh,
Thanks for your question and for continuing this discussion.
In my mind, any server-oriented measurement that informs us
about resources consumed would be a fair result to collect.
But as we said during the meeting, Only as an Auxilliary metric
while other benchmarking is in-progress.
One of the challenges I mentioned adding to my draft is for
benchmarking metrics to assist deployment designers, or perhaps
to provide input for some form of resource model so that your
question about adding VNFs below might be answered.
We have a draft that begins to address the resource sharing
aspect of benchmarking here:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vsperf-bmwg-vswitch-opnfv-00
prepared by the OPNFV vsperf project, and Maryam Tahhan presented
additional material on this topic in slides (see the IETF-93 materails).
Sorry for the brief response and the delay responding, I've
been travelling all weekend and just arrived at another meeting. :(
regards,
Al
From: Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech [mailto:saurabhchattopadhya@hcl=
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est configurations or test results?
Hello Al,
First, thank you for writing this draft. It is an excellent guideline for u=
s who are working in VNF Benchmarking area.
In the BMWG meeting session yesterday, there were some interesting discussi=
ons around whether to consider the CPU / memory utilization (and similar pa=
rameters) as test configurations or test results. I think we couldn't discu=
ss this in detail due to time constrain, thus I thought of bringing this up=
in the list to have your and other experts' views.
My own understanding is, for VNF benchmarking specifically, this issue beco=
mes little delicate. Considering the fact that VNF Black-box is reliant on =
certain soft integration and soft partitioning of the underlying hardware, =
all benchmark results are dependent on the load imposed over the entire har=
dware, in addition to be dependent on the load directed towards the VNF spe=
cifically. For example, if a VNF is masked over four core, and the particul=
ar hardware provides 12 more core, VNF's response on a fixed load condition=
will vary while the other cores are put under different load conditions. N=
ow at this point we can consider creating certain fixed type of load profil=
es (let's say, a combination % of compute, storage and networking load) ove=
r remaining hardware, and benchmark the VNF under Test against its own load=
conditions as originally planned. However, during the real deployment, the=
se fixed type of load profiles (combination % of compute, storage and netwo=
rking load) don't correlate well unless we qualify every VNF's performance =
profiles against these parameters. So this essentially means that even thou=
gh a benchmark data is produced for the VNF for the particular type of hard=
ware-part and for certain load conditions over remaining hardware, the depl=
oyment folks are not clear on how to leverage this intelligence especially =
when they are planning to deploy the other VNFs in the remaining hardware.
I'm not sure what will be an appropriate way to solve this. Measuring CPU /=
memory utilization (and similar parameters for the shared assets) may be a=
n option, but not sure if this truly aligns with the black-box benchmarking=
methodologies. Kindly advice.
Warm Regards,
Saurabh
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Hi Saurabh,
Thanks for your question and for continuing this di=
scussion.
In my mind, any =
server-oriented measurement that informs us
about re=
sources consumed would be a fair result to collect.
Bu=
t as we said during the meeting, Only as an Auxilliary metric
while other benchmarking is in-progress.
=
One of the challenges I mentioned adding to my draft=
is for
benchmarking metrics to assist deployment des=
igners, or perhaps
to provide input for some form of r=
esource model so that your
question about adding VNFs=
below might be answered.
=
=
We have a draft that begins to address the resource sharing
aspect of benchmarking here:
https://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-vsperf-bmwg-vswitch-opnfv-00
prep=
ared by the OPNFV vsperf project, and Maryam Tahhan presented
additional material on this topic in slides (see the IETF-93 matera=
ils).
Sorry for the brief =
response and the delay responding, I’ve
been tr=
avelling all weekend and just arrived at another meeting. L
=
p>
regards,
Al
=
<=
b>From:<=
/span> Saurabh Chattopadhyay - ERS, HCL Tech [mailto:saurabhchattopadhya@hcl.co=
m]
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st configurations or test results?
Hello Al,
First, =
thank you for writing this draft. It is an excellent guideline for us who a=
re working in VNF Benchmarking area.
In the BMWG meeting session yesterda=
y, there were some interesting discussions around whether to consider the C=
PU / memory utilization (and similar parameters) as test configurations or =
test results. I think we couldn’t discuss this in detail due to time =
constrain, thus I thought of bringing this up in the list to have your and =
other experts’ views.
<=
/o:p>
My own understanding is, for VNF benchmarking=
specifically, this issue becomes little delicate. Considering the fact tha=
t VNF Black-box is reliant on certain soft integration and soft partitionin=
g of the underlying hardware, all benchmark results are dependent on the lo=
ad imposed over the entire hardware, in addition to be dependent on the loa=
d directed towards the VNF specifically. For example, if a VNF is masked ov=
er four core, and the particular hardware provides 12 more core, VNF’=
s response on a fixed load condition will vary while the other cores are pu=
t under different load conditions. Now at this point we can consider creati=
ng certain fixed type of load profiles (let’s say, a combination % of=
compute, storage and networking load) over remaining hardware, and benchma=
rk the VNF under Test against its own load conditions as originally planned=
. However, during the real deployment, these fixed type of load profiles (c=
ombination % of compute, storage and networking load) don’t correlate=
well unless we qualify every VNF’s performance profiles against thes=
e parameters. So this essentially means that even though a benchmark data i=
s produced for the VNF for the particular type of hardware-part and for cer=
tain load conditions over remaining hardware, the deployment folks are not =
clear on how to leverage this intelligence especially when they are plannin=
g to deploy the other VNFs in the remaining hardware.
=
I’m no=
t sure what will be an appropriate way to solve this. Measuring CPU / memor=
y utilization (and similar parameters for the shared assets) may be an opti=
on, but not sure if this truly aligns with the black-box benchmarking metho=
dologies. Kindly advice.
Warm Regards,
Saurabh
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One of the topics which came up during the Prague meeting while discussing =
Al's draft on benchmarking VNFs was measuring energy consumption. Please fi=
nd details below. More details are also in the NFVRG draft - https://datatr=
acker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krishnan-nfvrg-policy-based-rm-nfviaas/?include_te=
xt=3D1.
At the physical server level, instantaneous energy
consumption can be accurately measured through IPMI standard. At a
VM level, instantaneous energy consumption can be
approximately measured using an overall utilization metric, which is
a combination of CPU utilization, memory usage, I/O usage, and
network usage.
Thanks,
Ramki
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he topics which came up during the Prague meeting while discussing Al’=
;s draft on benchmarking VNFs was measuring energy consumption. Please find=
details below. More details are also in the NFVRG draft - https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/doc/draft-krishnan-nfvrg-policy-based-rm-nfviaas/?include_text=3D1.
At the physical server level, instantaneous energy
consumption can be accurately measured through IPMI=
standard. At a
VM level, instan=
taneous energy consumption can be
&nbs=
p; approximately measured using an overall utilization metric, which is
a combination of CPU utilization, m=
emory usage, I/O usage, and
netw=
ork usage.
Thanks,
Ramki
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From: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)"
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Thanks Ramki, this is good input.
Al
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Subject: measuring energy consumption for NFV
One of the topics which came up during the Prague meeting while discussing =
Al's draft on benchmarking VNFs was measuring energy consumption. Please fi=
nd details below. More details are also in the NFVRG draft - https://datatr=
acker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krishnan-nfvrg-policy-based-rm-nfviaas/?include_te=
xt=3D1.
At the physical server level, instantaneous energy
consumption can be accurately measured through IPMI standard. At a
VM level, instantaneous energy consumption can be
approximately measured using an overall utilization metric, which is
a combination of CPU utilization, memory usage, I/O usage, and
network usage.
Thanks,
Ramki
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Thanks Ramki, this is good in=
put.
Al
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One of=
the topics which came up during the Prague meeting while discussing AlR=
17;s draft on benchmarking VNFs was measuring energy consumption. Please fi=
nd details below. More details are also in the NFVRG draft - https://datatracker.iet=
f.org/doc/draft-krishnan-nfvrg-policy-based-rm-nfviaas/?include_text=3D1.
At the physical server level, instantaneous energy
consumption can be accurately measured through I=
PMI standard. At a
VM level, ins=
tantaneous energy consumption can be
&n=
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a combination of CPU utilization,=
memory usage, I/O usage, and
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