Subject: Fix the nortel box RE: Multicast from IETF is sucking hard.

From: Joel Jaeggli <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:45:51 -0800 (PST)

Must have been nanog 13 or 14 when the nortel rep at the beer and gear
swore up and down that they had a pim implementation which raises the
question of what the heck is this dvmrp tunnel.

in the course of the last 3.5 hours I've seen almost 4 minutes of
multicast sourced from the ietf(got to tune in the very beginning of
diff-serve). It's not my link, nasa or the vbns... I don't want to bag on
the host to hard, presumably they're trying but this blows.

two mtraces 10:10 pdt and 10:10:30:

network-services:/net/network-services/disk1/home/joelja# mtrace
130.128.56.121
mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed
Mtrace from 130.128.56.121 to 128.223.60.21 via group 0.0.0.0
Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
  0  network-services.uoregon.edu (128.223.60.21)
 -1  cisco3-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.60.1)  PIM  thresh^ 0   [default]
 -2  cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.3.7)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -3  ? (198.32.163.1)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -4  sac.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.10)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -5  arc-chi.nren.nasa.gov (192.12.123.45)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 64  
 -6  chi-arc.nren.nasa.gov (198.10.64.25)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -7  cs-atm0-0-2006.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.197)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -8  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
 -9  * * gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^
0  
-10  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-11  * * gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^
0  
-12  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-13  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-14  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-15  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-16  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-17  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-18  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-19  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-20  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-21  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-22  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-23  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-24  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-25  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-26  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-27  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-28  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-29  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-30  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-31  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-32  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-33  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-34  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-35  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-36  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-37  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-38  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-39  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-40  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-41  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-42  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-43  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-44  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0
[defa
ult]
-45  gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
-46  * * cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^
0   [
default]
-47  * * gsr-atm0-0-17.dng.vbns.net (204.147.135.194) [version 12.0] would
be th
e next hop
Round trip time 624 ms; total ttl of 106 required.

network-services:/net/network-services/disk1/home/joelja# mtrace
130.128.56.121
mtrace: WARNING: no multicast group specified, so no statistics printed
Mtrace from 130.128.56.121 to 128.223.60.21 via group 0.0.0.0
Querying full reverse path... * switching to hop-by-hop:
  0  network-services.uoregon.edu (128.223.60.21)
 -1  cisco3-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.60.1)  PIM  thresh^ 0   [default]
 -2  cisco7-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.3.7)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -3  ? (198.32.163.1)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -4  sac.oregon-gigapop.net (198.32.163.10)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -5  arc-chi.nren.nasa.gov (192.12.123.45)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 64  
 -6  chi-arc.nren.nasa.gov (198.10.64.25)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -7  cs-atm0-0-2006.dng.vbns.net (204.147.128.197)  PIM/BGP4+  thresh^ 0  
 -8  cs-atm0-0-0-24.wor.vbns.net (204.147.135.193)  PIM/Special  thresh^ 0  
 -9  * * lil-gw.rutgers.edu (165.230.32.97)  PIM/Special  thresh^ 0  
-10  * * * bln-3.bone.ietf.innovationslab.net (130.128.96.3) [version
3.255] didn't respond
-11  mbone121.noc.ietf.innovationslab.net (130.128.56.121)
Round trip time 100 ms; total ttl of 69 required.

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