From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jun 2 08:26:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921CDE07CF for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OeiS+IKek-Nc for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B57E07EF for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1917919C; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR003.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr003.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.12]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FFA79195; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:25:42 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgAAJiq500Nh9IPmWdsb2JhbABNBoJSlQaOWhQBAQEBAQgLCwcUJcgbgzGCcASGaY5MiwI Received: from usa0300gw002.na.xerox.net ([13.135.210.15]) by USA7109MR003.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP; 02 Jun 2011 10:25:41 -0500 Received: from USA7061MS04.na.xerox.net ([13.151.235.15]) by USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:25:40 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 08:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MFD] Question on print job ticket Thread-Index: AcwhOT+UxTbtnYPgToCgrh6y/RYPhg== From: "Zehler, Peter" To: "Casas, Sergi" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2011 15:25:40.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[54FA6410:01CC2139] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: IPP@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] RE: [MFD] Question on print job ticket X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1912010933==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: DD1917919C.A8970 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1912010933== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC2139.540E9292" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2139.540E9292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sergi, =20 Scaling and rotation could be applied to Print but at this time they are not included in any current IPP specification and therefore not included in the Print Service portion of the MFD specification. Perhaps JPS3 can include them if there is a desire and people willing to work on it. =20 There are limited controls that cover how an impression is laid out on a media sheet (e.g., OrientationRequested, Resolution, NumberUp, the various [X|Y] Image [Shift|Position] elements). If Scaling and Rotation are included then JPS3 will have to address the interactions of these IPP job Template attributes =20 The Transform Service is currently only a place holder. The intent is for that service to be addressed after the services currently being actively worked. It is incomplete and can be ignored for now. There is no intent for simple services (e.g., copy, print, scan) to require a workflow to produce output. The transformation service was intended primarily as an "Impedance matcher" between the output of one service and the input of another. The transform service could also function independently to extend the capabilities of an MFD. =20 Pete=20 =20 =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 From: mfd-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Casas, Sergi Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:19 AM To: mfd@pwg.org Subject: [MFD] Question on print job ticket =20 Hi there, =20 I have noticed that in the Semantic Model v2, the job/document processing ticket only has scaling and rotation elements for image output services but not for impression output services. This seems to be inconsistent, since printers are also able to scale and rotate documents when ripping. =20 On a related note, rotation and scaling is available in the TransformService, but this service has no operations defined in ServicesOperations.xsd. Should rotation & scaling for printing be ordered by setting a workflow with the TransformService feeding into the PrintService ? if so, how ? why is this different for the ScanService ? =20 Thanks, =20 Sergi Casas =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean.=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2139.540E9292 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sergi,

 

Scaling and rotation could be applied to Print but a= t this time they are not included in any current IPP specification and ther= efore not included in the Print Service portion of the MFD specification.&n= bsp;  Perhaps JPS3 can include them if there is a desire and people wi= lling to work on it.

 

There are limited controls that cover how an impress= ion is laid out on a media sheet (e.g., OrientationRequested, Resolution, N= umberUp, the various [X|Y] Image [Shift|Position] elements).   If= Scaling and Rotation are included then JPS3 will have to address the inter= actions of these IPP job Template attributes

 

The Transform Service is cur= rently only a place holder.  The intent is for that service to be addr= essed after the services currently being actively worked.  It is incom= plete and can be ignored for now.  There is no intent for simple servi= ces (e.g., copy, print, scan) to require a workflow to produce output. = ; The transformation service was intended primarily as an “Impedance = matcher” between the output of one service and the input of another.&= nbsp; The transform service could also function independently to extend the= capabilities of an MFD.

 

Pete

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Peter Zehler

Xerox= Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com<= br>Voice: (585) 265-8755
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Xe= rox Corp.

800 Phillips Rd.=
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

From: mfd-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:mfd-bounces@= pwg.org] On Behalf Of Casas, Sergi
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Subject: [MFD] Question= on print job ticket

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Hi there,

 

I have noticed that = in the Semantic Model v2, the job/document processing ticket only ha= s scaling and rotation elements for image output services but not for impre= ssion output services. This seems to be inconsistent, since printers are al= so able to scale and rotate documents when ripping.

 

On a related note, r= otation and scaling is available in the TransformService, but this service = has no operations defined in ServicesOperations.xsd. Should rotation & = scaling for printing be ordered by setting a workflow with the TransformSer= vice feeding into the PrintService ? if so, how ?  why is this differe= nt for the ScanService ?

 

Thanks,

=  

Sergi Casas

 


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Perhaps JPS3 can inc= lude them if there is a desire and people willing to work on it. >=20=20 > There are limited controls that cover how an impression is laid out on a = media sheet (e.g., OrientationRequested, Resolution, NumberUp, the various = [X|Y] Image [Shift|Position] elements). If Scaling and Rotation are inclu= ded then JPS3 will have to address the interactions of these IPP job Templa= te attributes FWIW, you can already force a document to print on a different media than i= mplied by the document data by specifying ipp-attribute-fidelity=3Dtrue and= media or media-col. What isn't defined is how the mapping is done - scalin= g, positioning, rotation, etc.=20 Moreover, most printers today will automatically rotate and scale under spe= cific situations such as automatic landscape rotation and printing A4 on Le= tter media (and visa-versa) - this is an implementation detail that is allo= wed by the model. More recently the JPS3 draft also talks a bit about borderless printing, gi= ving the printer permission to scale and position the document data in orde= r to produce borderless output. It probably makes sense to add some sort of= job template attribute to control scaling, and then allow the "novalue" ou= t-of-band value for orientation-requested as a placeholder for "auto rotate= " (or add an enum value=85) CUPS has "fit-to-page", "position", "scaling", and "natural-scaling" job te= mplate attributes to explicitly control scaling, and makes use of automatic= rotation whenever the document does not fit on the selected media without = rotation. Specifying "ipp-attribute-fidelity=3Dtrue" also implies "scale to= fit" when the document is larger than the selected media and "center" when= the document is smaller than the selected media. More on CUPS extensions at: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/spec-ipp.html ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_7jR9TsIuxfVMGT6ZLdeGYw) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Sergi,
 
Scaling and rotation could be applied to Print but at this time = they are not included in any current IPP specification and therefore not in= cluded in the Print Service portion of the MFD specification.   P= erhaps JPS3 can include them if there is a desire and people willing to wor= k on it.
=  
There are li= mited controls that cover how an impression is laid out on a media sheet (e= .g., OrientationRequested, Resolution, NumberUp, the various [X|Y] Image [S= hift|Position] elements).   If Scaling and Rotation are included = then JPS3 will have to address the interactions of these IPP job Template a= ttributes

FWIW, = you can already force a document to print on a different media than implied= by the document data by specifying ipp-attribute-fidelity=3Dtrue and = media or media-col. What isn't defined is how the mapping is done - scaling= , positioning, rotation, etc. 

Moreover, most= printers today will automatically rotate and scale under specific situatio= ns such as automatic landscape rotation and printing A4 on Letter media (an= d visa-versa) - this is an implementation detail that is allowed by the mod= el.

More recently the JPS3 draft also talks a bit = about borderless printing, giving the printer permission to scale and posit= ion the document data in order to produce borderless output. It probably ma= kes sense to add some sort of job template attribute to control scaling, an= d then allow the "novalue" out-of-band value for orientation-requested as a= placeholder for "auto rotate" (or add an enum value=85)
CUPS has "fit-to-page", "position", "scaling", and "natur= al-scaling" job template attributes to explicitly control scaling, and make= s use of automatic rotation whenever the document does not fit on the selec= ted media without rotation. Specifying "ipp-attribute-fidelity=3Dtrue" also= implies "scale to fit" when the document is larger than the selected media= and "center" when the document is smaller than the selected media.

More on CUPS extensions at:


_______________________________________________= _________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer= , PWG Chair


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The new charter is available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/charter/ch-cloud-charter-20110609.pdf ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jun 9 19:33:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7F11E808B for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:33:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XtOqnSHCf0KT for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C005B11E80E3 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3B87951F; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:32:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A37951B for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u2Vl1g0011ei1Bg572YS0f; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:32:26 +0000 Received: from VistaBusiness ([24.61.240.234]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u2YR1g013548CT43k2YSmh; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:32:26 +0000 From: "William Wagner" To: References: <000001cc14d9$384ef860$a8ece920$@net> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 22:32:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cc2716$a1d29cc0$e577d640$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acrn2NxkRUYM+UsWQrmdBdTbREG0TUsJyBVwADzvu+AEh8qE4A== Content-Language: en-us X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call - WIMS Projects Charters X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group Announcement List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2086810897==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 9E3B87951F.ACCA7 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2086810897== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC26F5.1AC0FCC0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC26F5.1AC0FCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The last call period for the proposed WIMS project charters has ended. We thank those who reviewed these proposed charters and submitted comments. However, the response was not sufficient to meet the minimum response to PWG last call. In addition, several of the comments received did reflect on several basic problems with two of the charters, the CMMI and the CIMPrinterProfile; not the least of these problems was the lack of identified personnel to perform the project. Therefore, rather than extent last call, the WIMS decided to withdraw the charter proposals for these two projects. Updated charter proposals may be submitted in the future if and when there is more interest on the part of PWG membership and more people willing to be editors, contributors and WIMS officers. In the meantime, members of the WIMS may continue to consider, brainstorm on and do preliminary work on these projects, in keeping with the provisions of the documented PWG Process. Such preliminary activity has been proceeding with regard to the MFD Alerts project, which is actually a resumption of a project that had been suspended several years ago. Considering that significant work has been done on this MFD Alerts project, that we have a volunteer editor, and that there has been interest expressed in the project, the WIMS has elected to use the more conventional project charter approval path of requesting Steering Committee approval of an MFD Alerts Charter draft, after it has been updated to reflect the comments that have been received. The WIMS members thank you for your consideration. Please feel free to express your thoughts on these decisions on the WIMS mailing list. Bill Wagner, WIMS Chairman From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William Wagner Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:27 PM To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call - WIMS Projects Charters All, This is the announcement of Last Calls for three Project Charters describing proposed WIMS (Imaging System Management) projects. The charter drafts are posted at: MFD Alerts: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-mfdalerts-charter-20110515.pdf Coherent MFD Management Interfaces: (CMMI): ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cmmi-charter-20110515.pdf DMTF/CIM Printer Profile: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterprofile-charter-20110515 .pdf These projects are being chartered, with the charters to be submitted for formal PWG approval, to provide greater visibility for and to solicit more PWG member participation in the generation of imaging system management specifications. It is intended that all three of these projects will result in standards for hardcopy imaging equipment, and they should reflect consensus among PWG members. The three projects are not critically interdependent and will be voted on separately. Schedules outlined in the proposed charters may be affected by the personnel resources available and the other concurrent projects. Please review these charters and send comments to the WIMS reflector (wims@pwg.org). charter. We will discuss all received comments during the WIMS Face to Face meeting on May 24 in Webster, NY. The Last Calls will close on Wednesday, 8 June. 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The last = call period for the proposed WIMS project charters has ended. We thank thos= e who reviewed these proposed charters and submitted comments. However, the= response was not sufficient to meet the minimum response to PWG last call.= In addition, several of the comments received did reflect on several basic= problems with two of the charters, the CMMI and the CIMPrinterProfile; not= the least of these problems was the lack of identified personnel to perfor= m the project. Therefore, rather than extent last call, the WIMS decided to= withdraw the charter proposals for these two projects. Updated charter pro= posals may be submitted in the future if and when there is more interest on= the part of PWG membership and more people willing to be editors, contribu= tors and WIMS officers. In the meantime, members of the WIMS may continue t= o consider, brainstorm on and do preliminary work on these projects, in kee= ping with the provisions of the documented PWG Process.

 

Such preliminary activity has been proceeding with regard to the= MFD Alerts project, which is actually a resumption of a project that had b= een suspended several years ago. Considering that significant work has been= done on this MFD Alerts project, that we have  a volunteer editor, an= d that there has been interest expressed in the project, the WIMS has elect= ed to use the more conventional project charter approval path of requesting=  Steering Committee approval of an MFD Alerts Charter draft, after it= has been updated to reflect the comments that have been received.

 

The WIMS members thank you for your consideration. Pl= ease feel free to express your thoughts on these decisions on the WIMS mail= ing list.

Bill Wagner, WIM= S Chairman

 

From: pwg-announce-bounces@pw= g.org [mailto:pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William Wag= ner
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:27 PM
To: pwg-announc= e@pwg.org
Subject: [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call - WIMS Projects C= harters

 

All,

<= o:p> 

This is the announcement of Last Calls for thre= e Project Charters describing proposed WIMS (Imaging System Management) pro= jects. The charter drafts are posted at:

 

MFD Alerts:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-mfdalerts-charter-20110515.pdf=

 

Coherent MF= D Management Interfaces: (CMMI):

= ftp:/= /ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cmmi-charter-20110515.pdf

 

DMTF/CIM Pri= nter Profile:

ftp://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/charter/wd-cimprinterprofile-charter-20110515.pdf =

 

These projects ar= e being chartered, with the charters to be submitted for formal PWG approva= l, to provide greater visibility for and to solicit more PWG member partici= pation in the generation of imaging system  management specifications.= It is intended that all three of these projects will result in standards f= or hardcopy imaging equipment, and they should reflect consensus among PWG = members. The three projects are not critically interdependent and will be v= oted on separately. Schedules outlined in the proposed charters may  b= e affected by the personnel resources available and the other concurrent pr= ojects.

 

= Please review these char= ters and send comments to the WIMS reflector (wims@pwg.org).

charter.  We will discuss all received comments during the WIMS Face to Face meeting on May 24 in Webster,= NY. The Last Calls will close on Wednesday, 8 June.

 

Thank you,

 

Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS/PMP

 

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Monday 13 June 10am-12pm US PDT / 1-3pm US EDT Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler): Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PWG_MFD&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join Meeting ID: PWG_MFD Entry Code: LetMeIn *** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster and Use Cases *** Agenda: *** First Hour *** (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from PWG face-to-face meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20110525.pdf (3) Review PWG Raster (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf - see PWG Raster issues discussion in PWG face-to-face minutes (4) Status of IANA IPP Registry updates (Ira/Mike) - 10 PWG specs through IPP/2.0 SE submitted in 2009 - still pending w/ Michelle Cotton at IANA - Specs with missing IANA Considerations sections - PWG 5101.1 - Media Standardized Names - need to add photo sizes and possibly other updates (media colors?) - PWG 5101.2 - RepertoireSupported Element - Appendix B defines IPP repertoire-supported attribute and ABNF *** 2nd Hour *** (5) Review common scenarios/use cases (Mike) - continue discussion from Cloud Imaging WG meeting on 6 June (6) Next Steps - IPP WG meeting on Monday 27 June - All - Post more scenarios and use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging mailing lists Cheers, - Ira (IPP WG Co-Chair) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Christmas through April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May to Christmas: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --20cf30433f04d7dc9d04a560f826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS!

=A0 Monday 13 June 10am-12pm US PDT / 1-3pm US EDT

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

=A0 Link: https= ://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=3DPWG_MFD&role=3Dattend&pw= =3DLetMeIn
=A0 URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
=A0 Meeting ID: PWG_= MFD
=A0 Entry Code: LetMeIn

*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster and Use Cases ***

Agenda:

*** First Hour ***

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from PWG face-to-face meeting
=A0= =A0 =A0 - ftp://ft= p.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20110525.pdf

(3) Review PWG Raster (Mike)
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://f= tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20110327-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0= =A0 - see PWG Raster issues discussion in PWG face-to-face minutes

(4) Status of IANA IPP Registry updates (Ira/Mike)
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - 10= PWG specs through IPP/2.0 SE submitted in 2009
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - = still pending w/ Michelle Cotton at IANA
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Specs with missi= ng IANA Considerations sections
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - PWG 5101.1 - Media Standardized Names
=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 - need to add photo sizes and possibly other updates (media co= lors?)
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - PWG 5101.2 - RepertoireSupported Element
= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Appendix B defines IPP repertoire-supported attr= ibute and ABNF
=A0=A0=A0=A0
*** 2nd Hour ***

(5) Review common scenarios/use ca= ses (Mike)
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - continue discussion from Cloud Imaging WG meet= ing on 6 June

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG meeting on Monday 27 J= une
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - All - Post more scenarios and use cases to IPP/Cloud Imaging= mailing lists

Cheers,
- Ira (IPP WG Co-Chair)

Ira McDonald (Mus= ician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WGCo-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
IETF Desi= gnated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<= /a>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorth= inc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Christmas through April:
=A0 579 Park Place=A0 S= aline, MI=A0 48176
=A0 734-944-0094
May to Christmas:
=A0 PO Box 2= 21=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839
=A0 906-494-2434


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We just decided during our IPP WG meeting that we will skip
t= wo weeks:

- Monday 20 June 1-3pm EDT - Cloud Imaging WG
- Monday = 27 June - CANCELED
- Monday 4 July - CANCELED
- Monday 11 July 1-3pm = EDT - IPP WG

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software= Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Co-Chair - IEEE= -ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
IETF Designated Expert - = IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<= /a>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorth= inc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Christmas through April:
=A0 579 Park Place=A0 S= aline, MI=A0 48176
=A0 734-944-0094
May to Christmas:
=A0 PO Box 2= 21=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839
=A0 906-494-2434


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I have posted the minutes from today's IPP telecon at:


Action items:
  • Action: Glen to supply list of page header fields to Mike
  • Action: Mike to post update to common use case document before next concall
________________________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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All,<= /p>

 

The newly= approved PWG Candidate Standard "Copy Service Semantic Model and Serv= ice Interface v1.0" [PWG 5108.04-2011] is posted on the PWG server at:=

<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-sm20-copy10-20110610-5108.04.p= df>

 

=

it's also listed on the PWG standards web page with th= e Abstract at:

< http://www.pwg.org/standards.html>

 

The = MFD Working group page has been updated with the approved specification and= includes links to the associated schema and the official namespace.  = Note that no new namespace is required.  This specification uses the s= ame namespace as PWG 5108.01.  The MFD page is available at:

<http://www= .pwg.org/mfd>

 <= /p>

Peter Zehler

Cha= ir of PWG’s MFD Working Group

 

&n= bsp;

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
=
800 Phillips Rd.
= M/S 128-25E
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We currently have less than half the responses required to move this specification forward. Please take some time and respond even if you have no comments so that quorum can be reached. Pete =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 From: Zehler, Peter=20 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:58 AM To: 'pwg-announce@pwg.org' Subject: PWG Last Call of PWG FaxOut Service Semantic Model and Service Interface specification (5/9/11 - 6/10/11) =20 All, =20 [This PWG Last Call will start today on Monday May 9, 2011. This PWG Last Call will end Friday June 10, 2011 at 10pm US PDT.] =20 This is the formal announcement of the PWG FaxOut Service Semantic Model and Service Interface specification, which is located at: =20 =20 Many of the operations and attributes defined in this document have been prototyped by Xerox. The prototype is based on existing protocols such as ISO 10175, IETF/PWG IPP and Microsoft WSD. The MFD WG has completed a working group last call and subsequent revisions of this document. =20 The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. =20 Please send your review acknowledgment *exactly* as follows: =20 To: mfd at pwg.org =20 Subject: has reviewed the FaxOut Service Semantic Model and Service Interface specification and has [no] comments =20 Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. =20 This specification in normatively dependent on the MFD Model and Common Semantics specification. As a result this specification is less than 40 pages and consists primarily of figures, tables, and simplified text that references the MFD Model and Common Semantics specification that contains the details. I have also posted a "-rev" version of this specification for those of you that would like to see what has changed since the MFD group Last Call. =20 Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: =20 =20 =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean.=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 dangerous content by MailScanner , and is believed to be clean.=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2A88.864D2BE5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

The Last Call period for the FaxOut specification has been = extended until 6/24/11.  We currently have less than half the response= s required to move this specification forward.  Please take some time = and respond even if you have no comments so that quorum can be reached.

Pete

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
E= mail: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com<= /span>
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.<= br>M/S 128-25E
We= bster NY, 14580-9701 =

 

From:<= /b> Zehl= er, Peter
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:58 AM
To: 'pwg-= announce@pwg.org'
Subject: PWG Last Call of PWG FaxOut Service Se= mantic Model and Service Interface specification (5/9/11 - 6/10/11)

 

All,
=
 
[This PWG La=
st Call will start today on Monday May 9, 2011.
This PWG Last Call will e= nd Friday June 10, 2011 at 10pm US PDT.]
 
This is the formal anno= uncement of the PWG FaxOut Service Sem= antic Model and Service Interface specification, which is located at:<= /o:p>
<f=
tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdfaxoutmodel10-20110503.pdf> 
 
Many of the operations and a=
ttributes defined in this document have been prototyped by Xerox.  The=
 prototype is based on existing protocols such as ISO 10175, IETF/PWG IPP a=
nd Microsoft WSD.  The MFD WG has completed a working group last call =
and subsequent revisions of this document.
 
=
The PWG Process/3.0 r=
equires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG La=
st Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG=
 Formal Vote.  This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES req=
uire your review acknowledgment.
 
Please send your review acknowl=
edgment *exactly* as follows:
 
To:  mfd at pwg.org
Subject:  <Company Name> has reviewe=
d the FaxOut Servi=
ce Semantic Model and Service Interface specification and has [no] comments<=
/pre>
 
Please =
do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
 
This =
specification in normatively dependent on the MFD Model and Common Semantic=
s specification.  As a result this specification is less than 40 pages=
 and consists primarily of figures, tables, and simplified text that refere=
nces the MFD Model and Common Semantics specification that contains the det=
ails.  I have also posted a “-rev” version of this specifi=
cation for those of you that would like to see what has changed since the M=
FD group Last Call.
 
Note:  The PWG Definition of the Standa=
rds Development Process Version 3.0 is located at:
<= pre>  <http://www.pwg.= org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf>
=
 

 

 

&= nbsp;

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.800 Phillips Rd.
<= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'= >M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 1= 4580-9701 =

 

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Dealing with the "Best Practices" document, we have concluded that there need be just one scenario for each of the imaging functions: print, scan and fax. This "Scenario" becomes basically just a very general statement of what is involved in printing, or faxing, or whatever; I suggest that although it may be a useful starting point, it does not provide the usefulness of a more detailed scenario. Further, it seems that two different approaches have been proposed about how the "use cases" will be extracted from this single "scenario". One is a sort of horizontal approach by which each of the basic steps of the scenario refers to a set of use cases; for example, "Selecting a Printer" , "Submitting a Print Job", etc. The other, perhaps best described as vertical approach, would be to outline sequences of how a user in a particular situation would print, sort of a narrow scenario something like the use cases that were first submitted. Granted that we can use whatever terms we wish, provided that we properly define them, I do think that in using common engineering development terms we should not deviate too much from accepted usage. I suggest looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_%28computing%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_case, or perhaps the more formal documents referenced by these articles. But calling it scenario or use case, I do think that one of the main benefits of outlining a realistic start-to-end sequence (from "I want to print something" to "I know that that something was printed and where it was output") is that one sees (and reviewers see) interactions that might be lost in a purely horizontal approach . What is more, people can follow a realistic sequence and the use cases can become, as Randy suggested they must be, more "compelling". In short, I suggest: 1. Our terminology be not inconsistent with typical design terminology 2. We define our approach and terminology in the "Best Practices" document 3. We be consistent in terminology and level within the "Best Practices" document and among the various projects (It would be very confusing to have a Use Case in one document become a Scenario in another.) 4. We not lose the "story" aspect and the sequence of what the user does and what the "system" must do. Joe is on vacation at Yellowstone and needs to print out the map to a lost gold mine in Wyoming that his friend in New York City just found. Perhaps the story is farfetched, but it includes many aspects of the general problem that must be considered. Thanks, Bill Wagner -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC2B6F.FE3DD0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Consideri= ng the Cloud Imaging scenario discussion  of June 6 and the IPP scenar= io discussion of June 13, as well as face to face discussions, perhaps I ha= ve just missed the point but it seems we have wandered about in circles&nbs= p; (which is to say that we apparently have concluded that our first approa= ch was correct, which it may be). Dealing with the “Best Practices= 221; document, we have concluded that there need be just one scenario for e= ach of the imaging functions: print, scan and fax.  This “Scenar= io” becomes basically just a very general statement of what is involv= ed in printing, or faxing, or whatever;  I suggest that although it ma= y be a useful starting point, it does not provide the usefulness of a more = detailed  scenario.

=  

Further, it seems t= hat two different approaches have been proposed  about how the “= use cases”  will be extracted from this single “scenario&#= 8221;.  One is a sort of horizontal approach by which  each of th= e basic steps of the scenario refers to a set of use cases; for example, &#= 8220;Selecting a Printer” , “Submitting a Print Job”, etc= .   The other, perhaps best described as vertical approach, would= be to outline sequences of how a user in a particular situation would prin= t, sort of a narrow scenario something like the use cases that were first s= ubmitted.

 

Granted that we can use whatever t= erms we wish, provided that we properly define them,  I do think that = in using common engineering development terms we should not deviate too muc= h from accepted usage. I suggest looking at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_%28computing%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wik= i/Use_case, or perhaps the more formal documents referenced by these ar= ticles.

 =

But calling it scenario or use case,= I do think that one of the main benefits of outlining a realistic start-to= -end sequence (from “I want to print something” to “I kno= w  that that  something was printed and where it was output”= ;) is that one sees (and reviewers see) interactions that might be lost in = a purely horizontal approach . What is more, people can follow a realistic = sequence and the use cases can become, as Randy suggested they must be, mor= e “compelling”.

 

In short,  I= suggest:

1.     = Our terminology be not inconsistent with typical design terminology

2. = ;    We define our app= roach and terminology in the “Best Practices” document

3. =     We be consistent i= n terminology and level within the “Best  Practices” docum= ent and among the various projects (It would be very confusing to have a Us= e Case in one document become a Scenario in another.)

=

4.   &= nbsp; We not lose the “story= 221; aspect and the  sequence of what the user does and what the ̶= 0;system” must do… Joe is on vacation at Yellowstone and needs = to print out the map to a lost gold mine in Wyoming that his friend in New = York City just found. Perhaps the story is farfetched, but it includes many= aspects of the general problem that must be considered. =

Thanks,

Bill Wagner

 


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--000e0cd1f95a49e62204a5cc5170-- From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Fri Jun 17 10:26:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90E721F858F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i7UIbOIwiZND for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7982121F8588 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92D179510; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:26:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6DE79509 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 13:26:01 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPS id <0LMY00GJW2YOK4J1@mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:23:13 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7c71ae0000014d0-ab-4dfb8d7dc09f Received: from msweet.apple.com (msweet.apple.com [17.197.41.43]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 2A.7F.05328.D7D8BFD4; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:23:12 -0700 To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Message-id: <14581B5D-4A92-4F00-B659-FD44535FBC4C@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTW7e297evwf6rVhZHvsVarGtdzezA 5LH15A82j3mLpzMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZbz9co+lYLdyxb/GwAbGm/JdjBwcEgImEpv3 +XUxcgKZYhIX7q1n62Lk4hASmM4ksWL/FlaQBJuAmsTvSX1gNrNAgsSDJ03MIDaLgKrEr4kP wOLCQPbGWVfYQGwRAQmJad3zwOK8AjYSv04sYIewDSWmzvnNArFMVqKr5zPrBEbuWUjGzkJS BhHXlli28DVQnAPI1pGYvJARVRjC/nj+CNMCRrZVjIJFqTmJlYYmeokFBTmpesn5uZsYQWHV UGiyg/HgT/5DjAIcjEo8vD+LfvsKsSaWFVfmHmKU4GBWEuE9bwYU4k1JrKxKLcqPLyrNSS0+ xCjNwaIkznt9zSdfIYH0xJLU7NTUgtQimCwTB6dUA6Pxu5oftwLXSxZN//Z8HbdLRvzqa/7P eXsuHjlc+3b2LFa3V59Lkw3mzY3Jd5jP13/xDr91y6qsJtmDXGuCojIFklulVIRuzLZ4LjP7 ucnExwW7jvmb6TEWea4T2MfVvUl6T4qFnsqqtE0L7gWJuv54eyPfV9LvkkjgThaJhlRP1t9P T2kbnVJiKc5INNRiLipOBABYCww4JwIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [Pwg-Announce] New PWG Web Site is Now Live X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group Announcement List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1775668747==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: D92D179510.ABDC7 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1775668747== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_R9+WOjZQLPO64Zo3zNL6lg)" --Boundary_(ID_R9+WOjZQLPO64Zo3zNL6lg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, The new PWG web site is now live at: http://www.pwg.org/ Please let me know if you run into any browser compatibility or appearance/content issues. I have also uploaded a small web page template that should be used when creating new pages for pwg.org at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/templates/web-template.html (always the current version) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/templates/web-template-20110617.html (today's posting) ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_R9+WOjZQLPO64Zo3zNL6lg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

Th= e new PWG web site is now live at:


Please let me know = if you run into any browser compatibility or appearance/content issues.

I have also uploaded a small web page template that s= hould be used when creating new pages for pwg.or= g at:


___________________________________= _____________________________________
Mi= chael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair






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believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_R9+WOjZQLPO64Zo3zNL6lg)-- --===============1775668747== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --===============1775668747==-- From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Fri Jun 17 12:25:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA379E8023 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4aRA4oGDtsbU for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6C29E8030 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336B679533; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:24:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A622794A3 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:24:26 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay15.apple.com ([17.128.113.54]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LMY00GJS8K7K4R1@mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:24:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807136-b7c35ae000001055-70-4dfba9eb5806 Received: from msweet.apple.com (msweet.apple.com [17.197.41.43]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay15.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id BA.B3.04181.BE9ABFD4; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Pwg-Announce] New PWG Web Site is Now Live From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <14581B5D-4A92-4F00-B659-FD44535FBC4C@apple.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:24:18 -0700 Message-id: References: <14581B5D-4A92-4F00-B659-FD44535FBC4C@apple.com> To: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrHLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTW/f1yt++Bv8mmFoc+RZrsa51NbMD k8fWkz/YPOYtns4UwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlXHg3G+2gt8eFUvnbWdrYJzs0MXIySEhYCJx ZukvRghbTOLCvfVsXYxcHEIC05kk7n6bzgqSEBawkPjV9x2siFfAUGLqnN8sIDazQILEpnev wWrYBNQkfk/qA7M5BWwllrfPBatnEVCV2LTzMDNEr41Ew+q1TCC2EIjdNwWsRkRAQmJa9zxW iCNkJbp6PrNOYOSdhWTdLCTrIGxtiWULXzPPYuQAsnUkJi9kRBWGsD+eP8K0gJFtFaNgUWpO YqWhqV5iQUFOql5yfu4mRlAoNhSa7WDc8VfuEKMAB6MSD+/Pot++QqyJZcWVuYcYJTiYlUR4 +2YChXhTEiurUovy44tKc1KLDzFKc7AoifPeXPPJV0ggPbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cCY+P5d 7E3ZNY9nvbM52N+r8uvN3rA3uvlayjJ3K7bHF2Wd1HlzcOXBZsaEo3YTzS6++vaysEnjvuXc PYdtffk142rKzWdkXDO8UMqi85mJ6+3bOwnxe96VPplTL/dY9Ia6msDSzOtJD3acDDkmy7xl 6TZhjg+e9yP/f6/c5frUNfjTlydft9adUWIpzkg01GIuKk4EAMyAZPlBAgAA X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group Announcement List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1477521728==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 336B679533.AD74C X-pwg-MailScanner-From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1477521728== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+K6DTYl5VybZcV5M+ZSEcQ)" --Boundary_(ID_+K6DTYl5VybZcV5M+ZSEcQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I got a few notes of issues: 1. If the new site doesn't show up, do a force reload (or a fresh load) of the web site - sometimes web proxies will cache the old pages... 2. The links to the templates were broken because I uploaded with the wrong filenames. This is now fixed and the templates use absolute links to the core site files so that you can edit and play without having a local copy of the PWG web site (doesn't everybody? :) 3. The PWG wiki has a slightly different appearance from the core PWG web site for the search and sidebar - I will continue working on getting that resolved so they more closely match. On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > The new PWG web site is now live at: > > http://www.pwg.org/ > > Please let me know if you run into any browser compatibility or appearance/content issues. > > I have also uploaded a small web page template that should be used when creating new pages for pwg.org at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/templates/web-template.html (always the current version) > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/templates/web-template-20110617.html (today's posting) > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_+K6DTYl5VybZcV5M+ZSEcQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I got a few notes of issue= s:

1. If the new site doesn't show up, do a force reload= (or a fresh load) of the web site - sometimes web proxies will cache the o= ld pages...

2. The links to the templates were bro= ken because I uploaded with the wrong filenames. This is now fixed and the = templates use absolute links to the core site files so that you can edit an= d play without having a local copy of the PWG web site (doesn't everybody? = :)

3. The PWG wiki has a slightly different appear= ance from the core PWG web site for the search and sidebar - I will continu= e working on getting that resolved so they more closely match.
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Michael Sweet wrote:
All,

The new PWG web site is now= live at:


Please let me know if you run into any brows= er compatibility or appearance/content issues.

I h= ave also uploaded a small web page template that should be used when creati= ng new pages for pwg.org at:

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_____________________________________________________________= ___________
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Please send your resume to: Irma@usa-totaljob.com From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Jun 19 22:05:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A5911E80F1 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:05:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AbSSrSWaYYzI for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CF911E80F0 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EE579514; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:04:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (crispin.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D373D794D7; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 01:04:41 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay11.apple.com ([17.128.113.48]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPS id <0LN200FG5ORE8N00@mail-out.apple.com>; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:04:40 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807130-b7c45ae000001381-a7-4dfed4e28353 Received: from [17.151.67.206] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.67.206]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id A4.E3.04993.2E4DEFD4; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:04:46 -0700 To: cloud@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org Message-id: <101C3468-D484-4655-AA48-170B5EF99157@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmphluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnO58TvfxlX++Bis7eS0ubz/AanFs30sW iyPfYh2YPbae/MHmMW/xdKYApigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujM3NbawFN3gqOs7tZGxgPMDVxcjJ ISFgItFwbxErhC0mceHeerYuRi4OIYGpTBIvO9+wgCTYBNQkfk/qAytiFtCSuPHvJROErS2x bOFrZhCbRUBV4s2PRWBxYQE9idPbJoP1iggoSCyaP4sNxOYVsJHYdvoEE4RtKDF1zm8WiMWy El09n1knMPLMQrJiFpIVs5C0LGBkXsUoWJSak1hpaKiXWFCQk6qXnJ+7iREUNg2FBjsY1/7k P8QowMGoxMMbIf/PV4g1say4MvcQowQHs5II719NoBBvSmJlVWpRfnxRaU5q8SFGaQ4WJXHe a2s++QoJpCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pRoYZSfYr3dw+Sgc43OsTCtk8YF+3kcV+7QaUk0bymQz uRh8uZnPzZP48f3anFcfLie+d5CbJ7i6LHr5XP3uD4H3/pUlP7gY1FBz4mrVZdYtFcs6HnnM alimEZ0sH77n7lHH+jj9K9vNdrYvflB4vmeJ9vIXfiFS2/LWvFzV0Sc/5RX/z+6rzJcqlViK MxINtZiLihMBt8g9UhcCAAA= X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: Subject: [IPP] Updated Common Use Cases draft posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: A0EE579514.A8669 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted an updated Common Use Cases draft for tomorrow's Cloud Imaging telecon at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-commonusecases10-20110619.docx ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-commonusecases10-20110619.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-commonusecases10-20110619-rev.pdf The updated draft DOES NOT address all of the discussions we've had since the face-to-face, and in particular I have not converted any of the more complex use cases to scenarios yet. In order to make some constructive progress on this document, I would like to do the following: 1. Revisit our discussions about focusing on the broad scenarios - after spending a great deal of time trying to come up with a broad printing scenario that included all of the use cases I came to the conclusion that such a scenario is too confusing to be useful. 2. Read through the MFD Requirements use cases. They are here: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/informational/req-mfdreq10-20100901.pdf I still like the idea of having a framework that encompasses a high-level use case ("select a printer") along with specific example/concrete use cases ("select the last used printer", "select a printer using a directory service", etc.) - there the high-level use case is not overly broad and can be used to build specific scenarios. I also think the MFD Requirements use cases can form the basis of our "generic" scenarios. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Jun 19 23:39:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E9421F849D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:39:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KD+SIYzdxAh4 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2F21F8497 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75979521; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:38:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B2E79510; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:38:33 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay16.apple.com ([17.128.113.55]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LN2007R5T3SBXK0@mail-out.apple.com>; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807137-b7c4bae0000013e5-3a-4dfeeaf582b8 Received: from [17.151.67.206] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.67.206]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay16.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 71.86.05093.6FAEEFD4; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] comments on Scenario/use case effort From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <000001cc2b91$854f70d0$8fee5270$@net> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:38:39 -0700 Message-id: <8BD4CEAF-A6E4-4EE3-A159-6ED9CEB30B3D@apple.com> References: <000001cc2b91$854f70d0$8fee5270$@net> To: William Wagner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON35nO63V/98DZ6061pc3n6A1eLYvpcs Fke+xVqcu6DowOKx9eQPNo/Jj+cwesxbPJ0pgDmKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK6Pt+lyWggOmFT/6 W5gaGI/qdTFyckgImEi86OtmgbDFJC7cW8/WxcjFISQwlUliw49lzCAJYQFziUnzL7CD2LwC hhJT5/wGa2AWSJC4u3IrWA2bgJrE70l9rCA2p4CRxKK7T9hAbBYBVYnnx/5B1StITL6wlg1i jo3EnaVzwOqFBNIk3k04D1YjIqAl8enBcUaIg2Qluno+s05g5JuFZPUsJKshbG2JZQtfQ9kG Ek87X7FiiutLvHk3h2kBI9sqRsGi1JzESkMzvcSCgpxUveT83E2MoABuKDTfwbj9r9whRgEO RiUe3gj5f75CrIllxZW5hxglOJiVRHjjHwOFeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ895a88lX SCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwMhv+5sj83ryXc6Jr0KmTClxWNkrEMxbcFrqaZKOvPHL9fkX F5wx+TTv9hEv409iSXt+bquV+7Vk10nVz8wTlL4sWbHz3fK57SpXwxmmZTCLbljx+dLpHQ/m z+1Zcy62g9WWM8C0JubA4XzR95kH8564ObAbTmTq2rHm3oW+VvVM/kC944uCpWyVWIozEg21 mIuKEwHMH3lhXAIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org, cloud@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1809711923==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: AE75979521.A9BF8 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1809711923== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_S6REAc7a5boYWaEy2dfMvQ)" --Boundary_(ID_S6REAc7a5boYWaEy2dfMvQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:22 PM, William Wagner wrote: > ...=20 > In short, I suggest: > 1. Our terminology be not inconsistent with typical design terminology > 2. We define our approach and terminology in the =93Best Practices=94= document > 3. We be consistent in terminology and level within the =93Best Prac= tices=94 document and among the various projects (It would be very confusin= g to have a Use Case in one document become a Scenario in another.) > 4. We not lose the =93story=94 aspect and the sequence of what the u= ser does and what the =93system=94 must do=85 Joe is on vacation at Yellows= tone and needs to print out the map to a lost gold mine in Wyoming that his= friend in New York City just found. Perhaps the story is farfetched, but i= t includes many aspects of the general problem that must be considered. I agree on all points. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_S6REAc7a5boYWaEy2dfMvQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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3.     We be consistent in terminology and level within the =93Best  P= ractices=94 document and among the various projects (It would be very confu= sing to have a Use Case in one document become a Scenario in another.)=
4. = ;    We not lose the =93story=94 aspect and th= e  sequence of what the user does and what the =93system=94 must do=85= Joe is on vacation at Yellowstone and needs to print out the map to a lost= gold mine in Wyoming that his friend in New York City just found. Perhaps = the story is farfetched, but it includes many aspects of the general proble= m that must be considered.

I agree on all points.

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The ultimately broad scenario (one for all Print) doesn't really work well, IMHO. Cheers, - Ira On Jun 20, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:22 PM, William Wagner wrote: > > **... ** > In short, I suggest:**** > 1. Our terminology be not inconsistent with typical design terminology > **** > 2. We define our approach and terminology in the =93Best Practices=94 > document**** > 3. We be consistent in terminology and level within the =93Best > Practices=94 document and among the various projects (It would be very > confusing to have a Use Case in one document become a Scenario in another= .) > **** > 4. We not lose the =93story=94 aspect and the sequence of what the u= ser > does and what the =93system=94 must do=85 Joe is on vacation at Yellowsto= ne and > needs to print out the map to a lost gold mine in Wyoming that his friend= in > New York City just found. Perhaps the story is farfetched, but it includes > many aspects of the general problem that must be considered.**** > > > I agree on all points. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > > --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0015174734ce0577e104a6256bbf Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill and Mike,

I also agree on all points.

The ultimately = broad scenario (one for all Print) doesn't really
work well, IMHO.
Cheers,
- Ira

On J= un 20, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:22 PM, William Wagner wrote:
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In short,=A0 I suggest:
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<= span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, = 73, 125)">2.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0We define our approach and terminology in the =93Best Practices=94= document
<= span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, = 73, 125)">3.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0We be consistent in terminology and level within the =93Best=A0 Pr= actices=94 document and among the various projects (It would be very confus= ing to have a Use Case in one document become a Scenario in another.)
<= span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, = 73, 125)">4.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0We not lose the =93story=94 aspect and the =A0sequence of what the= user does and what the =93system=94 must do=85 Joe is on vacation at Yello= wstone and needs to print out the map to a lost gold mine in Wyoming that h= is friend in New York City just found. Perhaps the story is farfetched, but= it includes many aspects of the general problem that must be considered.

I agree on all points.=

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Some we discussed already; some we did not. My principal justification for the list of items is that a (PWG) Raster file could be printed in the event a job ticket was not present and produce the print intent of the end-user. Whether these are new fields or existing CUPS Raster field does not matter to me. =20 =20 Just the list - No order of importance is implied =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Total Page Count Duplex - Horizontal Transformed State Duplex - Vertical Transformed State Vendor ID number (for vendor only extensions) =20 Units Media Size Width Media Size Height Media Type =20 Spot Color [8 - rgb] Monochrome Base Color [1-rgb] Index Colors Value =20 Print Content Top Offset=20 Print Content Left Offset =20 Print Quality Print Content Type =20 Raster Data Size =20 #################################### Discussion and range of values =20 "Total Page Count" * The total number of page in this (PWG) Raster file. =20 "Duplex - Horizontal Transformed State" "Duplex - Vertical Transformed State" * The layout state of the duplex pages (both the front and back pages) =20 "Vendor ID number" * For vendor extensions only=20 * See http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids =20 "Units" * Metric (lsb =3D ???) * Inches (lsb =3D ???) =20 "Media Size Width" "Media Size Height" * Size (in units) of the media * This allows for new values beyond existing PWG and other standards. =20 "Media Type" * This will need discussion * Could be an index into a list created by PWG * Could be string names of well known (defined) types * Must be able to handle vendor extensions. =20 "Spot Color" * 8 - rgb values. =20 "Monochrome Base (saturation) Color" * 1-rgb value =20 "Index Colors Value" * 256 - rgb values (max)=20 =20 "Print Content Top Offset" "Print Content Left Offset" * Note could use proposed bounding box=20 =20 "Print Quality" * Draft, Normal, High =20 "Print Content Type" * Text, Text+Graphics (=3D web), Graphics (typically vector), Photo =20 "Raster Data Size" * Total size of raster data to follow. =20 =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC2F62.D47FD178 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike

 

Below is the complete list of items I would like to ad= d to the (PWG) Raster.  Some we discussed already; some we did not.  M= y principal justification for the list of items is that a (PWG) Raster file could be printed in the event a job ticket was not present and produce the print int= ent of the end-user.  Whether these are new fields or existing CUPS Raster field does not matter to me.

 

 

Just the list – No order of importance is implie= d

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<= /span>

Total Page Count

Duplex - Horizontal Transformed State

Duplex – Vertical Transformed State

Vendor ID number (for vendor only extensions)

 

Units

Media Size Width

Media Size Height

Media Type

 

Spot Color [8 - rgb]

Monochrome Base Color [1-rgb]=

Index Colors Value

 

Print Content Top Offset

Print Content Left Offset

 

Print Quality

Print Content Type

 

Raster Data Size

 

####################################=

Discussion and range of values

 

“Total Page Count”

  • The total number of pag= e in this (PWG) Raster file.

 

“Duplex - Horizontal Transformed State”

“Duplex – Vertical Transformed State”= ;

  • The layout state of the duplex pages (both the front and back pages)<= /li>

 

“Vendor ID number”

  • For vendor extensions o= nly
  • See http://www.linux-us= b.org/usb.ids

 

“Units”

  • Metric (lsb =3D ???)
  • Inches (lsb =3D ???)

 

“Media Size Width”

“Media Size Height”

  • Size (in units) of the = media
  • This allows for new val= ues beyond existing PWG and other standards.

 

“Media Type”

  • This will need discussi= on
    • C= ould be an index into a list created by PWG
    • C= ould be string names of well known (defined) types
    • M= ust be able to handle vendor extensions.

 

“Spot Color”

  • 8 – rgb values.

 

“Monochrome Base (saturation) Color”<= /o:p>

  • 1-rgb value<= /span>

 

“Index Colors Value”

  • 256 – rgb values = (max)

 

“Print Content Top Offset”

“Print Content Left Offset”

  • Note could use proposed bounding box

 

“Print Quality”

  • Draft, Normal, High

 

“Print Content Type”

  • Text, Text+Graphics (= =3D web), Graphics (typically vector), Photo

 

“Raster Data Size”

  • Total size of raster da= ta to follow.

 

 


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The details of the conference call are: Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 Attendee access code: Please request from the PWG Chair (msweet@apple.com) if you need it. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_vP8+CTV3mZyb1rtNvwvYWw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

The August 2011 PWG face-to-face meeting page is now available. The agen= da and venue information can be found at:


NO= TE: This meeting is 4 days long to accommodate the amount of material we ha= ve to discuss.

This page will be updated with docu= ment links as the material becomes available.

Plea= se visit the August 2011 survey page and indicate whether you plan to parti= cipate in person or call in:


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For those not able to attend in person, the usual telephone= bridge number will be provided. The details of the conference ca= ll are:

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-= 3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll nu= mber (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570

Attendee access code: P= lease request from the PWG Chair (mswee= t@apple.com) if you need it.

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