From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Mar 1 04:09:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABC321F8712 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:09:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.292 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.292 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.306, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b9dXpIhEQCuJ for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB7B21F8673 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C32D796C4; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:08:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR003.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr003.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.12]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0783796B8 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:08:34 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwEANllT08NKeYdkWdsb2JhbABAA4JEqGGIYCIBAQEBFCYngX8FDwEMEQMvLAEqBgwMB1cBBBMIiAGYeo0fAZMKigaDcQQFCAMBAgECAoRkNgEBAwMCAQYCAQMBAwQBKRgKBYI/YwSIT59/gTs Received: from usa7109ht003.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.29]) by USA7109MR003.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Mar 2012 06:08:33 -0600 Received: from USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net (13.135.210.15) by USA7109HT003.na.xerox.net (13.41.230.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 06:08:33 -0600 Received: from USA7061MS04.na.xerox.net ([13.151.235.15]) by USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 1 Mar 2012 07:08:32 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:08:29 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Xerox has reviewed PWG Raster Format and has no comments Thread-Index: Acz3pAOyL1ZKIdS6RvO72qFszWmjoQ== From: "Zehler, Peter" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2012 12:08:32.0941 (UTC) FILETIME=[05B5F5D0:01CCF7A4] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] Xerox has reviewed PWG Raster Format and has no comments X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0809503721==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 6C32D796C4.A8380 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0809503721== Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCF7A4.04FBEAA5" ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCF7A4.04FBEAA5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCF7A4.04FBEAA5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Peter Zehler

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I=92m not sure we should be mandating what devices should and shouldn= =92t support in this spec. other than from the standpoint of =93if compliance/conformance to this specification is claimed then =85=85=94. = We have that in the printing section but not explicitly for scanning. 2. Until we get a better handle on what the IPP Everywhere Scan (v2.0 or whatever) is and its schedule, I don=92t think we should be requiring MF= Ds to support the creation of PWG Raster. If we want to do that as a requirem= ent for IPP Everywhere Scan, that=92s fine. 3. Additionally, there are =93many=94 shipping printer and MFDs that cou= ld easily be tweaked to support the PWG Raster format, but would be a much larger delta to that tweak to force the support of PWG Raster creation in the MFD products. I=92d like to reword the (line 670) sentence to something like: If a Printer supports scanning and the creation of the PWG Raster MIME media type, it MUST also: [image: Description: lexmark_logo] *Jerry Thrasher* Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. 501C14/035-3, 740 New Circle Rd, Lexington Ky 40550 Office: +1 859 825 4056 Fax: +1 859 232 7628 thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d041826629e362a04ba2ee9cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In looking over th= e conformance section of the raster spec.,=A0 a strict reading of section 6= .3 mandates ANY mfd that supports consumption of the raster format MUST als= o be able to generate it=85got a couple of problems with this.

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  1. I=92m not= sure we should be mandating what devices should and shouldn=92t support in= this spec. other than from the standpoint of =93if compliance/conformance = to this specification is claimed then =85=85=94. =A0We have that in the pri= nting section but not explicitly for scanning.
  2. Until we get a better handle on wh= at the IPP Everywhere Scan (v2.0 or whatever) is and its schedule, I don=92= t think we should be requiring MFDs to support the creation of PWG Raster. = =A0If we want to do that as a requirement for IPP Everywhere Scan, that=92s= fine.
  3. Additionally, there are =93many=94= shipping printer and MFDs that could easily be tweaked to support the PWG = Raster format, but would be a much larger delta to that tweak to force the = support of PWG Raster creation in the MFD products.

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I=92d like to reword the (line 670) sentence to something like:=

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If a Printer supports scanning and the creation of the PWG Raster MI= ME media type, it MUST also:

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3D"Description:

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Jerry Thrasher

Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards<= br>Lexmark International Inc.
501C14/035-3, 740 New Circle Rd, Lexington= Ky 40550
Office: +1 859 825 4056=A0=A0=A0=A0 Fax: +1 859 232 7628
thrasher(at)lex= mark(dot)com


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Ron - you aren't subscribed to IPP so this message was silently discarded. -------------------------------------------------- Thank You, Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certifications Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging Samsung Electronics America, Inc. Enterprise Business Division 85 Challenger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660 P 201.329.6231 C 201.220.5945 samsung.com/business Learn about our Solutions at http://www.samsung.com/us/printersolutions/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --bcaec53d547742dc8d04ba33dc2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Forwarded on behalf of Ron Nevo.

Ron - you aren't sub= scribed to IPP so this message was silently discarded.

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Thank You,

Ron Nevo | S= enior Manager | Product Marketing
Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certification= s
Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging
Samsung Electro= nics America, Inc.
Enterprise Business Division
85 Challenger Road | = Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660
P 201.329.6231
C 201.220.5945
samsung.com/business

Learn about our Solutions at http://www.samsung.com/us/printe= rsolutions/


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The agenda and venue information can be found at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/april_2012_cupertino.html This page will be updated with document links as the material becomes available. Please visit the April 2012 survey page PRIOR TO APRIL 13, 2012 and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3XNMDK8 For those not able to attend in person, the usual telephone bridge number will be provided. 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For those not able to attend in person, = the usual telephone bridge number will be provided. The details o= f the conference call are:

Call-in toll-free number (US/C= anada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300=
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Canon wants to make sure that a conforming client pe= rforms the correct transformations for the target printer and selected inpu= t media. Canon requests that the PWG Raster Format specification be clarifi= ed in section “6.4 Generic Client Conformance Requirements”. Please reword the sentence containing = 220;MediaSupported” to make it clear that the media-source-properties= (media-source-feed-direction and media-source-feed-orientation) must be su= pported.

 

Thank you,

Rick Yardumian

 


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All,

 

I was doing a write up related to a generic type printer (laser or inkjet) bu= t I did not know what the accepted term is the encompasses both toner and ink. = ; Can someone provide me the accept term?

 

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Not particularly user-friendly. For CUPS we translate marker-supply-low/empty to ink and toner-low/empty to toner. That leaves out wax-based printers, of course... On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote: > All, > > I was doing a write up related to a generic type printer (laser or inkjet) but I did not know what the accepted term is the encompasses both toner and ink. Can someone provide me the accept term? > > Glen > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_Bbtqlzsy7FFZAZHurX+QUQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Glen,

Don't know if this will be helpful, but for print= er-state-reasons the generic term we use is "marker supply" for any consuma= ble other than toner.  Not particularly user-friendly.

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For CUPS we translate marker-supply-low/empty to ink and toner-lo= w/empty to toner. That leaves out wax-based printers, of course...


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I = have posted an updated draft of the PWG Raster Format specification and the= last call comments to:


For review and discussion at = Monday's IPP concall...

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I believe= “Colorant” is the term used in the MIB.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Bill W.

 

From: mfd-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Mich= ael Sweet
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:33 PM
To: P= etrie, Glen
Cc: ipp@pwg.org; mfd@pwg.org
Subject: [MFD]= Re: [IPP] Question: What is the generic term for both toner and ink?<= /o:p>

 

Glen,

 

Don't know if this will be helpful,= but for printer-state-reasons the generic term we use is "marker supp= ly" for any consumable other than toner.  Not particularly user-f= riendly.

 

For CUPS we translate marker-supply-low/em= pty to ink and toner-low/empty to toner. That leaves out wax-based printers= , of course...

 

 

On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<= /p>



All,

 

I was doing a write up related to a= generic type printer (laser or inkjet) but I did not know what the accepte= d term is the encompasses both toner and ink.  Can someone provide me = the accept term?

 

=

Gle= n

 


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I suggest=

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/= ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307.pdf or

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307= -rev.pdf and

ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt

might work better.

Bill W.

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From: ipp-bounces@pwg.= org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Se= nt: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:58 PM
To: ipp@pwg.org
S= ubject: [IPP] PWG Raster Format Last Call Comments and Draft Posted

 

All,

 <= /o:p>

I have posted an updated draft of = the PWG Raster Format specification and the last call comments to:

 

 = ;

For review and discussion at Mon= day's IPP concall...

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FYI,

 

The general response was: Colorant

 

glen

 


From: mfd-boun= ces@pwg.org [mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf = Of Petrie, Glen
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Subject: [MFD] Question: Wha= t is the generic term for both toner and ink?

 

All,

 

I was doing a write up related to a generic type printer (laser or inkjet) bu= t I did not know what the accepted term is the encompasses both toner and ink.  Can someone provide me the accept term?=

 

Glen

 


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On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:09 PM, William Wagner wrote: > I suggest > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307.pdf or > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf and > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt > might work better. > Bill W. > > From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: [IPP] PWG Raster Format Last Call Comments and Draft Posted > > All, > > I have posted an updated draft of the PWG Raster Format specification and the last call comments to: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt > > For review and discussion at Monday's IPP concall... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_/a6/OsQ5KAkXnTrnpfP9lA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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Monday 23 January 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler): Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PwgSemanticModel&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join Meeting ID: PwgSemanticModel Entry Code: LetMeIn *** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call *** Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf (3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop - issues, questions? (4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Formal Vote - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-rev.pdf - version reviewed - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt - comments received during PWG Last Call (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs - planning for late March WG last calls and April PWG last calls (6) Next Steps - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review updated IPP Everywhere specs - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d044287beeb36be04bae4ef40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for ONE HOUR!

=A0 Monday 23 January 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

=A0 Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=3DPwgSemanticModel&role= =3Dattend&pw=3DLetMeIn
=A0 URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
=A0 Meeting ID: PwgS= emanticModel
=A0 Entry Code: LetMeIn


*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
=A0=A0 =A0 - = ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf

(3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - i= ssues, questions?

(4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum=
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Form= al Vote
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-r= ev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version reviewed
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp= ://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call
=A0=A0=A0=A0 = - ftp://f= tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - = comments received during PWG Last Call

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - planning for late = March WG last calls and April PWG last calls

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review upd= ated IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere spe= cs

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / So= ftware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary= - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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If Mike schedules one, there will be a WebEx. Cheers, - Ira On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for ONE HOUR! > > Monday 23 January 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME > > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) > > Attendee Access Code: *******# > Attendee ID Code: # (empty) > > If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. > > > *** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call *** > > Agenda: > > (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker > - Mike? > > (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting > - > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf > > (3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop > - issues, questions? > > (4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum > - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Formal Vote > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-rev.pdf > - version reviewed > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf > - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt > - comments received during PWG Last Call > > (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs > - planning for late March WG last calls and April PWG last calls > > (6) Next Steps > - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review updated IPP Everywhere specs > - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0443066cb0be5504bae4fe94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

There will NOT be a Live Meeting.

If Mike schedules one, = there will be a WebEx.

Cheers,
- Ira


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Ira McDonald = <blueroofmusic@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be next= Monday for ONE HOUR!

=A0 Monday 23 January 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.


*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
=A0=A0 =A0 - = ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf

(3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - i= ssues, questions?

(4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum=
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Form= al Vote
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippr= aster10-20120123-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version reviewed
= =A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippr= aster10-20120307-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call
=A0=A0=A0=A0 = - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt
= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - comments received during PWG Last Call

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - planning for late = March WG last calls and April PWG last calls

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review upd= ated IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere spe= cs

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / So= ftware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary= - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



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Monday 12 March 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. No Live Meeting - WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note. *** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call *** Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf (3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop - issues, questions? (4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Formal Vote - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-rev.pdf - version reviewed - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt - comments received during PWG Last Call (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs - planning for late March WG last calls and April PWG last calls (6) Next Steps - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review updated IPP Everywhere specs - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d044480351afdcf04bae51fb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

[Please ignore both previous flawed meeting announcement notes]<= br>

Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for ONE HOUR!

=A0 Monday 12 March 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

No Live Meeting - WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note.
<= br>
*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
=A0=A0 =A0 - = ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf

(3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - i= ssues, questions?

(4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum=
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Form= al Vote
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippr= aster10-20120123-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version reviewed
= =A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippr= aster10-20120307-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call
=A0=A0=A0=A0 = - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt
= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - comments received during PWG Last Call

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - planning for late = March WG last calls and April PWG last calls

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review upd= ated IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere spe= cs

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician = / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secre= tary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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The WIMS WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a WIMS WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the PWG MFD Alerts specification and has [no] comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE: Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): wims "at" pwg "dot" com (WIMS WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) wamwagner "at" comcast "dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS WG Co-Chair) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG MFD Alerts Editor) Note that you must be subscribed to the WIMS WG mailing list to send email there - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf Cheers, - Ira (PWG MFD Alerts Editor) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0444803569b04004bae5986d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

[This PWG Last Call starts today Saturday March 10, 2012 and end= s Friday April 6, 2012 at 10pm US PDT.]


This is the formal annou= ncement of the PWG Last Call for the PWG Printer MIB and IPP MFD Alerts spe= cification, located at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmfdalerts10-20120308.pdf

All required attributes and values defined in this document have b= een prototyped by Apple and/or other vendors.=A0 The WIMS WG has completed = extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a WIMS WG la= st call.

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members = must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any doc= ument can progress to PWG Formal Vote.=A0 This PWG Last Call is NOT a Forma= l Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.

HOW TO RESPOND:
Send an email with *exactly* the following subject l= ine format:
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the PWG MFD Alert= s specification and has [no] comments

WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE: Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):<= br>
wims "at" pwg "dot" com (WIMS WG mailing list - = you must be subscribed!)
wamwagner "at" comcast "dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS = WG Co-Chair)
blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira= McDonald, PWG MFD Alerts Editor)

Note that you must be subscribed t= o the WIMS WG mailing list to send email there - otherwise your email will = be silently discarded.

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0= is located at:

=A0
http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process= 30.pdf

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG MFD Alerts Editor)

Ira McDon= ald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printi= ng WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=194524527&UID=504472682&ICS=MS&LD=1&RD=2&ST=1&SHA2=Af/s18Qp2oFQUGJaFG7nqzoyQFO-EUSYK/SoBQT5ecg= To check whether you have the appropriate players installed for UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files, go tohttps://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/systemdiagnosis.php. http://www.webex.com On Mar 10, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > [Please ignore both previous flawed meeting announcement notes] > > > Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for ONE HOUR! > > Monday 12 March 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME > > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) > > Attendee Access Code: *******# > Attendee ID Code: # (empty) > > If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. > > No Live Meeting - WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note. > > > *** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call *** > > Agenda: > > (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker > - Mike? > > (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf > > (3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop > - issues, questions? > > (4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ quorum > - to PWG Steering Committee for approval to start PWG Formal Vote > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-rev.pdf > - version reviewed > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf > - version w/ changes from PWG Last Call > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt > - comments received during PWG Last Call > > (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs > - planning for late March WG last calls and April PWG last calls > > (6) Next Steps > - IPP WG on Monday 26 March - review updated IPP Everywhere specs > - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_NYbPxQ4B4VOkD/9ZddK+kw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Here is the WebEx informat= ion:

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--------------------------------= ----------------------- 
Topic: IPP Working Group Telecon 
= Date: Monday, March 12, 2012 
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time= (San Francisco) 
Meeting Number: 620 668 930 
Meeting Pass= word: pwg123 

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On Mar 10, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Ira McD= onald wrote:

Hi,

[Please ignore both previous flawed meeting announceme= nt notes]


Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for ONE HOUR!=

  Monday 12 March 12-1pm US PDT / 3-4pm US EDT - NEW TIME

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

No Live Meeting - WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note.
<= br>
*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster after PWG Last Call ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
   =   - ftp://f= tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120227.pdf

(3) Status of 'ipptool' and IPP/2.0 Interop
    = - issues, questions?

(4) PWG Raster - PWG Last Call completed w/ qu= orum
     - to PWG Steering Committee for approval t= o start PWG Formal Vote
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip= p/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120123-rev.pdf
     &= nbsp; - version reviewed
     - = ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120307-rev.pdf
       - version w/ changes from PWG Last Cal= l
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/l= crc-ippraster10.txt
       - comments = received during PWG Last Call

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
     - planni= ng for late March WG last calls and April PWG last calls

(6) Next Steps
     - IPP WG on Monday 26 March = - review updated IPP Everywhere specs
     - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Ev= erywhere specs

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonal= d (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing= WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094=
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434=


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______________________________________________= ___________
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[For review at tomorrow's IPP WG teleconference]

I= 9;ve just posted an Initial draft of an updated IPP Charter for the
rena= med IPP Everywhere and IPP Multifunction projects, including
the new IPP= Shared Infrastructure Extensions (IPPSIX) spec for
Cloud Print:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippever= ywhere-charter-20120311.pdf
=A0 - clean copy w/ line numbers

= =A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter-2= 0120311-rev.pdf
=A0 - redlines copy w/ line numbers

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ir= a

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chai= r - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Work= ing Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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I = have posted the minutes from today's IPP conference call to:

=

Our next concall will be on March 26,= 2012 at 3:00pm Eastern Time.

Action items:
<= div>
- Ira to send registry updates to Mike for some bad refe= rences to 5100.5
- Mike to work with IANA to improve the plain tex= t registry
- Mike to re-post last call response with comments
<= /div>
= - Mike to post updated stable draft and call for formal vote after SC = approval

___________________________= _____________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<= /div>


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From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Mar 14 14:34:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9548B11E8081 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RwXRSeL5lh6U for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68ED11E807F for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84099795B8; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:34:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (bramley.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E079595 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:34:02 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay17.apple.com ([17.128.113.18]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0M0W00FIN970O2V3@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807112-b7bc8ae000001e00-c6-4f610ec96fd0 Received: from msweet.apple.com (msweet.apple.com [17.197.41.43]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay17.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 48.46.07680.9CE016F4; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:34:01 -0700 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1272) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTW/ckX6K/QcNJGYtj+16yWBz5FuvA 5LH15A82j3mLpzMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZeycdI+1YIVIReO7NrYGxgahLkZODgkBE4mH fa3MELaYxIV769m6GLk4hASmM0n86u4HS7AJqEn8ntTHCmIzCyRIHJn8CSjOwcEioCoxcbYJ SFhYIECiY0IrWImIAL/ExIsQ5bwCNhIzzz5jhLANJY7s74TaJSvxbko/2wRG7llIps5CUgYR 15ZYtvA1kM0BZOtITF7IiCoMYX88f4RpASPbKkbBotScxEpDc73EgoKcVL3k/NxNjKDAaigU 2sF4f5feIUYBDkYlHl7h2nh/IdbEsuLK3EOMEhzMSiK8plyJ/kK8KYmVValF+fFFpTmpxYcY pTlYlMR5sw4CVQukJ5akZqemFqQWwWSZODilGhjTZ8+2aRKM8FLwOpCaebDgwuU8XV7h7Stv 1r0zfTRJ4ea1DkftnLvT9xR0KCpVB9s/kY1viOz8r7XhZ0SP8Tax+IQNdRobbRZMuLC58ur/ qXdWzHh/rdxg29N+r/Af4mUcnzsVhDkvhO1RlHTK9njZYclp3Hn6pPeeZQ6+yQr5ybdKKmr+ iyuxFGckGmoxFxUnAgCiILwvKAIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] Apple has reviewed the PWG Raster Format specification and has comments X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0924397579==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 84099795B8.A8A8B X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0924397579== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_5dXIt1WacfS/vCHNkkzUTQ)" --Boundary_(ID_5dXIt1WacfS/vCHNkkzUTQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [These were discovered while I was editing; including these to capture them for posterity...] 1. Section 2: Fix reference to RFC 2119 by using document title 2. Need to add missing by-pass-tray media source - MediaPositionEnum value 19 3. Section 5.1.1: "attribute" should be "element" ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_5dXIt1WacfS/vCHNkkzUTQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable [These were discovered whi= le I was editing; including these to capture them for posterity...]
1. Section 2: Fix reference to RFC 2119 by using document = title

2. Need to add missing by-pass-tray medi= a source - MediaPositionEnum value 19

3. Secti= on 5.1.1: "attribute" should be "element"

___________________________= _____________________________________________
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I = have updated the PWG Raster Format specification one more time based on our= review of the last call feedback and resolutions at Monday's IPP concall. =  You can find it all here:


This is = hopefully the version that will be put out for formal vote...
_______________________________________________= ___
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chai= r


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I'm pleased to announce that at today's PWG Steering Com= mittee
meeting, the updated charter for Cloud = Imaging WG was approved
unanimously:

= =A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/charter/ch-clo= ud-charter-20120315.pdf

Changes:
- Replaced former Cloud IPP and SOAP binding objectives/spe= cs with
=A0 collaboration w/ IPP WG and SM WG to develop those bindings<= br>
- Replaced former monolithic Cloud Imaging Requirements and Model
=A0 objective/spec with Cloud Print Requirements and Model and Cloud
= =A0 Multifiunction Requirements and Model objectives/specs (consistent w/ <= br>=A0 new IPP WG charter)

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG Secretary)

P= S - Mike - please update the charter link on the = Cloud Imaging WG
web page - thanks.


Ira McDonald (Musician / Softwa= re Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - I= EEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Cha= ir - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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See voting instructions below. This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the PWG Raster Format, which is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120314.pdf The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start today on Saturday 17 March 2012 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 13 April 2012. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote. PWG Privacy Policy: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors. HOW TO VOTE: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: PWG Raster Formal Vote--- Example: PWG Raster Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes Rules: (1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" voteinto a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWGProcess/3.0. (2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWGProcess/3.0. (3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any *technical* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval. WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, PWG Raster Editor) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote). Notes: (1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. (2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf Cheers, - Ira McDonald (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0438924d4ea0a204bb71e6c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings:

VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL!=A0 See voting instructions below.=

This email initiates the Formal Approval = vote by the PWG members= hip on the
PWG Raster Format, which is located at:

= =A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-2012031= 4.pdf

The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and= resolutions is located at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippraster10.txt<= br>

VOTING PERIOD:=A0 This Formal Vote will start today on Saturday 17 March 2012
and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 13 April 2012.

Vali= d votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain.


Repre= sentatives from PWG member companies are strongly= encouraged to
exercise their right to vote.

PWG Privacy Policy:=A0 Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed
by PWG officers or document editors.


HOW TO VOTE:

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:

= =A0 PWG Raster Formal Vote-<company name>-<voter's last name>-<Yes/No/Abstain&g= t;

Example:

=A0 PWG Raster Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes


Rules:

(1) Any &qu= ot;No" vote MUST state the reason for the &q= uot;No" vote and MUST contain
a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No"= ; vote into a
"Yes" vote - otherwise the "No&quo= t; vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0.

(2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per = PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain &quo= t;editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0.<= br> =A0
(4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT cont= ain any=A0 *technical* comments, per PWG
Proce= ss/3.0.

(5) Any "Abstain" vote c= ounts toward quorum, but not approval.


WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the followi= ng email addresses (replacing
"dot" with '.' and "= ;at" with '@'):

msweet "at" apple "dot&q= uot; com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, PWG Raster Edito= r)

blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG S= ecretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)

ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot&q= uot; com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the
IPP WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vot= e).


Notes:

(1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the= PWG=A0 Process/3.0
and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Proper= ty and Confidentiality agreement.
The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both = of these documents and
the links are provided below.

(2) To be el= igible to vote the member MUST have submitted a s= igned copy of
the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their = dues.

The PWG Definition of the Standards Developme= nt Process Version 3.0 is
located at:

=A0 http://ww= w.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and C= onfidentiality is located at:

=A0 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf

Cheers,
- Ira McDonald (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Fo= undation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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I have found the "printer-icons" attr= ibute in the IPP Everywhere specification, which refers me to PWG 5100.JSP3= , but so far haven't been able to fully track down the definition of that a= ttribute. Are there any other IPP operations or attributes for operations = that provide icon information? Are either PNG or Windows Icon (.ico) image file formats specified by any I= PP specification as formats that must be used or supported? If the latter = is specified or allowed, are there any royalty issues with using that forma= t? And with PNG files, is there a facility for the Printer Object to suppl= y a set of files at resolutions, sort of like an unpacked .ico file?=20 Thanks for any help or guidance, Smith --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sat Mar 17 10:51:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEE821F861B for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7vgMVmVekq-N for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F143921F861A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43627965F; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:51:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE80B79657 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so1999158wib.11 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ggbu1JT0taa1/SK8rlnSCVSCO5ZPEXaMJH/TZDwgUXg=; b=bQ5m5MOi0P7Li8JDCWIleQO4+QZmoeNu0nAK7hOSyhfDozF2RSAXwwKTIK6Yp5MI7q PkCQROqj1Xu60iiUE8TN3FKMROjOq4fcIt7Fw9XGvCVJJpzD2L/NH265jxFgQJyO/NmO J8vcpFYp6kfsG1eljGMLakJCsLZiEVfXD/PILX1gO+Xipdg+1+/jbGYgPlEjCc7oeRkI MM1xMWuCXp+GJTPHI7CxqJPxML9ZTfu8/I1PPh21f1CrmhZ69IzJ0MUZy7znH94Ed3Ay 8/jQDbKpBgFP4qd1FUyFNLuLBaKOQ06wiUBBgtFsTEsifBZB3lqxFZT1k/l4GQpStC6W TqgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.132 with SMTP id i4mr7557853wiy.12.1332006663850; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.120.11 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [IPP] question about IPP and icon file formats From: Ira McDonald To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" , Ira McDonald X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1367306322==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: D43627965F.A8761 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1367306322== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0443066c098af004bb73f8f6 --f46d0443066c098af004bb73f8f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Smith, Here is the definition of "printer-icons" from the most recent draft of IPP JPS3: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120131.pdf 5.6.29 printer-icons (1setOf uri) The REQUIRED "printer-icons" Printer attribute lists one or more Printer-resident images using "http:" or "https:" URIs. The referenced images MUST be RGBA PNG [RFC2083] format, have square dimensions of 48x48, 128x128, or 512x512 pixels, represent the physical appearance of the Printer, and show the same perspective/view of the Printer. If only one image is provided, it MUST have dimensions of 128x128 pixels. Images MUST be listed from smallest to largest dimensions. Images MUST provide an alpha channel to mask the background surrounding the printer. The Abstract of RFC 2083 says: "This document describes PNG (Portable Network Graphics), an extensible file format for the lossless, portable, well-compressed storage of raster images. PNG provides a patent-free replacement for GIF and can also replace many common uses of TIFF. Indexed-color, grayscale, and truecolor images are supported, plus an optional alpha channel. Sample depths range from 1 to 16 bits. PNG is designed to work well in online viewing applications, such as the World Wide Web, so it is fully streamable with a progressive display option. PNG is robust, providing both full file integrity checking and simple detection of common transmission errors. Also, PNG can store gamma and chromaticity data for improved color matching on heterogeneous platforms. This specification defines the Internet Media Type image/png." Does that answer all your questions? Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > Can anybody provide me with some information about IPP and what facilities > it provides to supply printer icons? I have found the "printer-icons" > attribute in the IPP Everywhere specification, which refers me to PWG > 5100.JSP3, but so far haven't been able to fully track down the definition > of that attribute. Are there any other IPP operations or attributes for > operations that provide icon information? > > Are either PNG or Windows Icon (.ico) image file formats specified by any > IPP specification as formats that must be used or supported? If the latter > is specified or allowed, are there any royalty issues with using that > format? And with PNG files, is there a facility for the Printer Object to > supply a set of files at resolutions, sort of like an unpacked .ico file? > > Thanks for any help or guidance, > Smith > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0443066c098af004bb73f8f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Smith,

Here is the definition of "printer-icons" from t= he most recent
draft of IPP JPS3:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw= g/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120131.pdf

5.6.29 printer-icons (1setOf uri)

The REQUIRED "printer-ico= ns" Printer attribute lists one or more Printer-resident images using = "http:" or "https:" URIs. The referenced images MUST be= RGBA PNG [RFC2083] format, have square dimensions of 48x48, 128x128, or 51= 2x512 pixels, represent the physical appearance of the Printer, and show th= e same perspective/view of the Printer. If only one image is provided, it M= UST have dimensions of 128x128 pixels. Images MUST be listed from smallest = to largest dimensions. Images MUST provide an alpha channel to mask the bac= kground surrounding the printer.

The Abstract of RFC 2083 says:

=A0=A0 "This document descri= bes PNG (Portable Network Graphics), an
=A0=A0 extensible file format fo= r the lossless, portable, well-compressed
=A0=A0 storage of raster image= s.=A0 PNG provides a patent-free replacement for
=A0=A0 GIF and can also replace many common uses of TIFF.=A0 Indexed-color,=
=A0=A0 grayscale, and truecolor images are supported, plus an optional = alpha
=A0=A0 channel.=A0 Sample depths range from 1 to 16 bits.

= =A0=A0 PNG is designed to work well in online viewing applications, such as=
=A0=A0 the World Wide Web, so it is fully streamable with a progressive
= =A0=A0 display option.=A0 PNG is robust, providing both full file integrity=
=A0=A0 checking and simple detection of common transmission errors.=A0 = Also,
=A0=A0 PNG can store gamma and chromaticity data for improved colo= r matching
=A0=A0 on heterogeneous platforms.

=A0=A0 This specification defines= the Internet Media Type image/png."

Does that answer all your = questions?

Cheers,
- Ira (co-chair of IPP WG)


Ira McDo= nald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF D= esignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-944-0094
Summer=A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2= 434



On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Kennedy= , Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
Greetings,

Can anybody provide me with some information about IPP and what facilities = it provides to supply printer icons? =A0I have found the "printer-icon= s" attribute in the IPP Everywhere specification, which refers me to P= WG 5100.JSP3, but so far haven't been able to fully track down the defi= nition of that attribute. =A0Are there any other IPP operations or attribut= es for operations that provide icon information?

Are either PNG or Windows Icon (.ico) image file formats specified by any I= PP specification as formats that must be used or supported? =A0If the latte= r is specified or allowed, are there any royalty issues with using that for= mat? =A0And with PNG files, is there a facility for the Printer Object to s= upply a set of files at resolutions, sort of like an unpacked .ico file?

Thanks for any help or guidance,
Smith




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[For review at today's Cloud WG meeting, = next week's IPP WG meeting,
and
next week's PWG Steering = Committee meeting]


Per the discussion at the IPP WG teleconferen= ce on 12 March 2012, I've
just posted a Stable draft of an updated IPP Charter for the renamed IPP=
Everywhere and IPP Multifunction projects:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippev= erywhere-charter-20120319.pdf
=A0 - clean copy w/ line numbers
=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp= everywhere-charter-20120319-rev.pdf
=A0 - redlines copy w/ line numbers

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ir= a

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chai= r - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Work= ing Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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Given the definition in section 5.6.29, it is clear to me tha= t the set of images provided by the printer-icons attribute provide basical= ly an "unpacked" equivalent of a .ICO file. Smith On 2012-03-17, at 11:51 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: Hi Smith, Here is the definition of "printer-icons" from the most recent draft of IPP JPS3: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120131.pdf 5.6.29 printer-icons (1setOf uri) The REQUIRED "printer-icons" Printer attribute lists one or more Printer-re= sident images using "http:" or "https:" URIs. The referenced images MUST be= RGBA PNG [RFC2083] format, have square dimensions of 48x48, 128x128, or 51= 2x512 pixels, represent the physical appearance of the Printer, and show th= e same perspective/view of the Printer. If only one image is provided, it M= UST have dimensions of 128x128 pixels. Images MUST be listed from smallest = to largest dimensions. Images MUST provide an alpha channel to mask the bac= kground surrounding the printer. The Abstract of RFC 2083 says: "This document describes PNG (Portable Network Graphics), an extensible file format for the lossless, portable, well-compressed storage of raster images. PNG provides a patent-free replacement for GIF and can also replace many common uses of TIFF. Indexed-color, grayscale, and truecolor images are supported, plus an optional alpha channel. Sample depths range from 1 to 16 bits. PNG is designed to work well in online viewing applications, such as the World Wide Web, so it is fully streamable with a progressive display option. PNG is robust, providing both full file integrity checking and simple detection of common transmission errors. Also, PNG can store gamma and chromaticity data for improved color matching on heterogeneous platforms. This specification defines the Internet Media Type image/png." Does that answer all your questions? Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) > wrote: Greetings, Can anybody provide me with some information about IPP and what facilities = it provides to supply printer icons? I have found the "printer-icons" attr= ibute in the IPP Everywhere specification, which refers me to PWG 5100.JSP3= , but so far haven't been able to fully track down the definition of that a= ttribute. Are there any other IPP operations or attributes for operations = that provide icon information? Are either PNG or Windows Icon (.ico) image file formats specified by any I= PP specification as formats that must be used or supported? If the latter = is specified or allowed, are there any royalty issues with using that forma= t? And with PNG files, is there a facility for the Printer Object to suppl= y a set of files at resolutions, sort of like an unpacked .ico file? 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All,

The joint PWG/OpenPrinting face-to-face meeting= page for April 2012 is now available. The agenda and venue infor= mation can be found at:


This page will= be updated with document links as the material becomes available.

Please visit the April 2012 survey page PRIOR TO APRIL 13,= 2012 and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in:


For those = not able to attend in person, the usual telephone bridge number will b= e provided. The details of the conference call are:

= Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll numbe= r (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 8= 56-9570

Attendee access code: Please request from the PWG= Chair (msweet@apple.com) if you ne= ed it.

________________________= ________________________________________________
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[For review at this week's IPP WG meeting and t= his week's PWG Steering
Committee meeting]


Per the discu= ssion at the Cloud Imaging WG teleconference on 19 March 2012,
I've= =A0 just posted a Stable draft of an updated IPP Charter for the renamed IPP
Everywhere and IPP Mu= ltifunction projects:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippev= erywhere-charter-20120325.pdf
=A0 - clean copy w/ line numbers
=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp= everywhere-charter-20120325-rev.pdf
=A0 - redlines copy w/ line numbers

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ir= a

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chai= r - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Work= ing Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note. *** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs *** Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120312.pdf (3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter-20120325-rev.pdf - redlines since 11 March version (typo in Transform corrected from last week) (4) Status of PWG Raster vote (ends 13 April) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120314.pdf (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs - planning for WG last calls before April F2F (6) Next Steps - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25 April at Joint PWG/OPS meeting Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0444024e5edf8b04bc16e444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS!

=A0 Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note.


*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
=A0=A0 =A0 - = ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120312.pdf

(3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval
=A0=A0=A0= =A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter= -20120325-rev.pdf
=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 - redlines since 11 March version (typo in Transform corre= cted from last week)

(4) Status of PWG Raster vote (ends 13 April) =A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120314.pdf

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - planning for= WG last calls before April F2F

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere spe= cs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25 April at Joint PWG/OPS = meeting

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musi= cian / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=195720612&UID=0&PW=NNzY1ZjdjOTYz&ORT=MiM0 On Mar 25, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS! > > Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT > > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) > > Attendee Access Code: *******# > Attendee ID Code: # (empty) > > If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. > > WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note. > > > *** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs *** > > Agenda: > > (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker > - Mike? > > (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120312.pdf > > (3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter-20120325-rev.pdf > - redlines since 11 March version (typo in Transform corrected from last week) > > (4) Status of PWG Raster vote (ends 13 April) > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120314.pdf > > (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs > - planning for WG last calls before April F2F > > (6) Next Steps > - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs > - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25 April at Joint PWG/OPS meeting > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_nBL/eSmijQy/KPkgFvlHug) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Topic: IPP Working Group Telecon 
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On Mar 25, 2012, at 1:= 13 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:

Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOU= RS!

  Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note.


*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
   =   - ftp://f= tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120312.pdf

(3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval
 &nbs= p;   - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywh= ere-charter-20120325-rev.pdf
       - redlines since 11 March version (typo in = Transform corrected from last week)

(4) Status of PWG Raster vote (e= nds 13 April)
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20= 120314.pdf

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
  &nb= sp;  - planning for WG last calls before April F2F

(6) Next Steps
     - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Ev= erywhere specs
     - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25= April at Joint PWG/OPS meeting

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094<= br>Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


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If there is an interest in presenting UI cor= responding to different attributes, and some were not supported by a partic= ular document format, the code presenting the UI would likely want to not p= resent or disable the UI elements for those that are not supported so that = the user's expectations are not violated. What IPP operation or operations= should a client use to query the IPP server to discover what attributes ar= e supported for a particular document format on a particular Printer Object? Thanks for any help, Smith --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Mar 26 10:10:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E176C21E8107 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wZQ7WyF3jS3A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CDD21E8106 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622DF79631; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:10:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A8879626 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:09:58 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0M1I00ME34XL8P00@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:09:58 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7f7a6d00000135a-97-4f70a2e56146 Received: from msweet.apple.com (msweet.apple.com [17.197.41.43]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id FD.1F.04954.6E2A07F4; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] question about RFC 2911 and job template attributes From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <5BEBD8F3-14F0-4D8E-877E-C72E081B0D1F@hp.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:09:57 -0700 Message-id: <77E7D1BC-4E27-4671-BF76-BB15BC9F0B5C@apple.com> References: <5BEBD8F3-14F0-4D8E-877E-C72E081B0D1F@hp.com> To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1273) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTW/fZogJ/g+PnmS2O7XvJYnHkW6zF q65dzA7MHltP/mDz2LVtJ5PHvMXTmQKYo7hsUlJzMstSi/TtErgyZs1/ylbQyVvxrvMwSwPj W64uRk4OCQETic/fDjFB2GISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEpjOJHHm1zFmkISwgJvE9B9N7CA2r4ChxNfL 7WA2s4CWxI1/L8Ga2QTUJH5P6mMFsTkFrCT+L70EFmcRUJW4uWIGK0S9osSy6X+gbG2JZQtf M0PMtJE4+HILUD0H0GJLiR+dhSBhEQEHiedLPrFA3CYrsej6TtYJjPyzkFwxC8kVs5BMXcDI vIpRsCg1J7HS0EQvsaAgJ1UvOT93EyMoDBsKTXYwHvzJf4hRgINRiYfXcHqBvxBrYllxZe4h RgkOZiUR3t/cQCHelMTKqtSi/Pii0pzU4kOM0hwsSuK8dm9y/IUE0hNLUrNTUwtSi2CyTByc Ug2MoR3a3EYhfg9nPGiZ+7Nn5pZQN6O2nTqfViWGnO/1lrol/0C9+eOBC0JMGRlJifb5X9ZL xzPuXPsy1fq20Be9I40812IUlie/spSVFXqsLKf0dEP/VoaLE9UU09Of1985ph5wM7niWX/a pxVJLpxKmgxlvdVJEkbfW51sS6awxfC8SeyR2arEUpyRaKjFXFScCAAbkgn2PwIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 622DF79631.A8B82 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Smith, On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) wrote: > Hello, > > RFC 2911 Section 4.2 "Job Template Attributes" includes the statement "An attribute "xxx" may be supported for some document formats and not supported for other document formats". If there is an interest in presenting UI corresponding to different attributes, and some were not supported by a particular document format, the code presenting the UI would likely want to not present or disable the UI elements for those that are not supported so that the user's expectations are not violated. What IPP operation or operations should a client use to query the IPP server to discover what attributes are supported for a particular document format on a particular Printer Object? The values returned by Get-Printer-Attributes can be "colored" (historical terminology) based upon a "document-format" attribute supplied in that request. Pending extensions in the JPS3 spec allow a Printer to advertise additional attributes that contribute to coloring of values, for example a Printer might allow the "sides" attribute to be specified as well and only return those media sizes that support duplexing. Other pending extensions in JPS3 allow for generic client-side (job-constraints-supported, job-resolvers-supported) and printer-side (Validate-Job preferred-attributes) constraint resolution when simple coloring (filtering) of -supported and -default values is insufficient. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Mar 26 11:01:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F99D21E80DF for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L1Pprpavitvr for ; 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Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:00:26 +0000 From: Justin Hutchings To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Subject: RE: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm Monday 26 March 2012 Thread-Topic: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm Monday 26 March 2012 Thread-Index: AQHNCsPbWnsieAiE/Ui/jVqsDdSj7ZZ7kwUAgAFL0bA= Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:00:25 +0000 Message-ID: <84E7B9D8C42A504F945A500E1C44E69204DA80@TK5EX14MBXC111.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> References: <9B3C96B2-E929-44C2-9805-7B9651A69CE2@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <9B3C96B2-E929-44C2-9805-7B9651A69CE2@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.54.51.79] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1385839491==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: E049379653.AA7B6 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1385839491== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_84E7B9D8C42A504F945A500E1C44E69204DA80TK5EX14MBXC111red_" --_000_84E7B9D8C42A504F945A500E1C44E69204DA80TK5EX14MBXC111red_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be leaving early to make a meeting across campus at the midpoint. Ta= lk to you all in a few. From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael= Sweet Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:12 PM To: Ira McDonald Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm Monday 26 March 2012 Topic: IPP Working Group Telecon Date: Monday, March 26, 2012 Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) Meeting Number: 620 408 933 Meeting Password: pwg123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D195720612&UID=3D0&P= W=3DNNzY1ZjdjOTYz&RT=3DMiM0 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: pwg123 4. Click "Join". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D195720612&UID=3D0&PW=3DNNzY1= ZjdjOTYz&ORT=3DMiM0 On Mar 25, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS! Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Prim= ary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Back= up) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note. *** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs *** Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120312= .pdf (3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter-20120325-r= ev.pdf - redlines since 11 March version (typo in Transform corrected from = last week) (4) Status of PWG Raster vote (ends 13 April) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20120314.pdf (5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs - planning for WG last calls before April F2F (6) Next Steps - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Everywhere specs - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25 April at Joint PWG/OPS meeting Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --_000_84E7B9D8C42A504F945A500E1C44E69204DA80TK5EX14MBXC111red_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will be leaving early t= o make a meeting across campus at the midpoint. Talk to you all in a few.

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From: ipp-boun= ces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Ira McDonald
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP Agenda - 3-5pm Monday 26 March 2012

 

Topic: IPP Working Group Telecon 
Date: Monday, March 26, 2012 <= br> Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San= Francisco) 
Meeting Number: 620 408 933  Meeting Password: pwg123 


------------------------------------------= ------------- 
To join the online meeting (Now from mobil= e devices!) 
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1. Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?= ED=3D195720612&UID=3D0&PW=3DNNzY1ZjdjOTYz&RT=3DMiM0 
2. If requested, enter your name and email= address. 
3. If a password is required, enter the me= eting password: pwg123 
4. Click "Join". 

To view in other time zones or languages, = please click the link: 
https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D19572061= 2&UID=3D0&PW=3DNNzY1ZjdjOTYz&ORT=3DMiM0 
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On Mar 25, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:



Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOU= RS!

  Monday 26 March 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

WebEx if Mike schedules it - watch for his note.


*** Main Objective - Review IPP WG Charter and TBD specs ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20120312.pdf

(3) Final review of IPP WG Charter before PWG SC approval
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeverywhere-charter-20120325-rev.pdf<= /a>
       - redlines since 11 March version (typo in = Transform corrected from last week)

(4) Status of PWG Raster vote (ends 13 April)
     -
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20= 120314.pdf

(5) Status of IPP Everywhere specs
     - planning for WG last calls before April F2F

(6) Next Steps
     - IPP WG on Monday 9 April - review updated IPP Ev= erywhere specs
     - IPP WG session on Wednesday 25 April at Joint PW= G/OPS meeting

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434



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The WIMS WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a WIMS WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the PWG MFD Alerts specification and has [no] comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE: Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): wims "at" pwg "dot" org (WIMS WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) wamwagner "at" comcast "dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS WG Co-Chair) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG MFD Alerts Editor) Note that you must be subscribed to the WIMS WG mailing list to send email there - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf Cheers, - Ira (PWG MFD Alerts Editor) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6dee74a73e79004bc298090 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

[Resend with corrected email address below for WIMS WG - thanks = to Justin Hutchings for catching this!]

[This PWG Last Call started = Saturday March 10, 2012 and ends Friday April 6, 2012 at 10pm US PDT.]


This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the PWG Pr= inter MIB and IPP MFD Alerts specification, located at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmfdalerts= 10-20120308.pdf

All required attributes and values defined in this document have been=20 prototyped by Apple and/or other vendors.=A0 The WIMS WG has completed=20 extensive review of the various revisions of this document and a WIMS WG last call.

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting=20 members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments),=20 before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote.=A0 This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.

HOW TO RESPOND:
Send an email with *exactly* the following subject l= ine format:
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the PWG MFD Alert= s specification and has [no] comments

WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE: Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):<= br>
wims "at" pwg "dot" org (WIMS WG mailing list - = you must be subscribed!)
wamwagner "at" comcast "dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS = WG Co-Chair)
blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira= McDonald, PWG MFD Alerts Editor)

Note that you must be subscribed to the WIMS WG mailing list to send email=20 there - otherwise your email will be silently discarded.

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.
Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0= is located at:

=A0 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membershi= p_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG MFD Alerts Editor)

Ira McDon= ald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printi= ng WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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I = have posted the minutes from today's IPP conference call to:

=

Our next full conference call will be= April 9, 2012 at 3pm Eastern Time. Stay tuned for announcements on additio= nal meeting times as we will be trying to do an early review of JPS3.
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________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Is the first string field in the page header supposed to be the literal string "PwgRaster"? (NULL-extended to 64 octets, of course.) I couldn't find any explanation of that field in the pdf. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Mar 26 20:52:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9080E21E8051 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.544 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUYDud0GpkOW for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C74E21E8045 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5CA79677; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:52:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202AB7966E for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:52:18 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0M1I000D0YR4SAU0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:17 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7f7a6d00000135a-47-4f7139714ee6 Received: from [17.151.70.95] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.70.95]) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id E3.5E.04954.179317F4; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] pwg raster page header first string field From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:52:24 -0700 Message-id: <9C486069-E152-4198-92ED-08202AB160A1@apple.com> References: To: James Cloos X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON0tXrfQstDf4OlGI4uLc+ewWRzb95LF 4si3WAdmj60nf7B5XFq8ldVj3uLpTAHMUVw2Kak5mWWpRfp2CVwZ3TcmsRe8Yak43LGQvYHx LXMXIyeHhICJxIctc6FsMYkL99azdTFycQgJrGeUOHpiH2sXIweHsICNxMrXuiA1vAKGEjNf tbOC2MwCWhI3/r1kArHZBNQkfk/qA4tzChhInN5/G8xmEVCV+LLnIlQ9v8TB3g/MELa2xLKF r5khZtpILHz/gBHEFhLQl5i9vxUsLiKgLPH/wzNWiNtkJW4f3M80gZF/FpIzZiE5YxaSsQsY mVcxChal5iRWGproJRYU5KTqJefnbmIEhWFDockOxoM/+Q8xCnAwKvHwGk4v8BdiTSwrrsw9 xCjBwawkwnvzJFCINyWxsiq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I4r92bHH8hgfTEktTs1NSC1CKYLBMH p1QD4+qwvxeqLz2KXf3yj+7cz/c8mCosuFjWb0lO+DP7x3+RdRVW3qG5blW15zZesFrtv/XM xOm/Nc+c2JLwnTdJr5O54qXt7oPSF6ZGHHsy+2uI4kqjB4L3zJ+Vsv+7ZcjqfL1l+aLHJwzL An/tuhnINsP26i9/plgmwRUX61V0p2+XPz5j9sqmd3eVWIozEg21mIuKEwFja7++PwIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: BB5CA79677.A8744 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org James, On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:21 PM, James Cloos wrote: > I'm working from wd-ippraster10-20120307.pdf. > > Is the first string field in the page header supposed to be the literal > string "PwgRaster"? (NULL-extended to 64 octets, of course.) Yes. > I couldn't find any explanation of that field in the pdf. Hmm, looks like the text got lost somewhere along the way, but I need to add this to the final version of the spec once the vote is done... Added to my list... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Mar 27 11:36:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15FE21E80B1 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IRDJZW187kMz for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222F521F884B for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520B379684; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:35:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (bramley.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EC979682 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:35:30 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0M1K00HUZ3KV6UF2@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:35:29 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7f7a6d00000135a-45-4f720871014f Received: from [17.151.74.249] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.74.249]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 8D.A7.04954.178027F4; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:35:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:35:32 -0700 To: "ipp@pwg.org" Message-id: <16F98F27-EF6B-4898-B8BE-B880F3BEA77F@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1444) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3rp24hR5G/wbzdJhbH9r1ksTjyLdaB yWPryR9sHvMWT2cKYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgypjdPZO54J5IxbNDi9kaGM8IdTFyckgImEis ftfHAmGLSVy4t56ti5GLQ0hgKpPEjgmz2EASbAJqEr8n9bF2MXJwMAskSDxfWAtisgioSpzY YwdSISzgKnH41iNmEFtEQF5ibdtUJhCbV8BG4vLiXmYIW0/i+LW3TBCrZCXOHj3BOIGRexbC 0FlIqkBsZgFtiWULXzNDlOhITF7IiCoMYX88f4RpASPbKkbBotScxEpDE73EgoKcVL3k/NxN jKCgaig02cF48Cf/IUYBDkYlHt5qpiJ/IdbEsuLK3EOMEhzMSiK82lGF/kK8KYmVValF+fFF pTmpxYcYpTlYlMR5t3wASgmkJ5akZqemFqQWwWSZODilGhjrA2v29b2/6P7T/egu27ob1koq ATfe2xj8ebYvv4J174oe7QiphsmvZQRDKuXa31W9mvI3SXji+556p66ZFx5+vP6x7KtJ5M0r qdbfTsnEdrPGyW8KFc9Y0Xtbb3al1VQ/NZ4HF5i7Ezs9r5o7zJPNPhhd9sTXXujkm9RrvO8O b7yye0VIZ5ASS3FGoqEWc1FxIgDIxbkzJgIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3 (JPS3) posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1996298064==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 520B379684.A85D6 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1996298064== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yd/ijDpxEcnzOu3vKfz8+w)" --Boundary_(ID_yd/ijDpxEcnzOu3vKfz8+w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted the next update to the JPS3 spec to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120327.docx ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120327.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120327-rev.pdf We will be reviewing this document starting next Monday at 4pm Eastern time, April 2, 2012 (at the conclusion of the Cloud Imaging WG concall) with the intent of moving to a WG Last Call as soon as possible. __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_yd/ijDpxEcnzOu3vKfz8+w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

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believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_yd/ijDpxEcnzOu3vKfz8+w)-- --===============1996298064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1996298064==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Mar 27 20:39:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5735321E811B for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:39:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L3-N2UzsryWz for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8622F21E801A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BBE7968F; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:39:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from g4t0017.houston.hp.com (g4t0017.houston.hp.com [15.201.24.20]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648F279689 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from G2W1953G.americas.hpqcorp.net (gvt0525.austin.hp.com [16.238.8.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by g4t0017.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC8B386C7 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G9W0705G.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.216.198.36) by G2W1953G.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.238.8.185) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.289.1; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:37:37 +0000 Received: from G9W0723.americas.hpqcorp.net ([169.254.3.9]) by G9W0705G.americas.hpqcorp.net ([16.216.198.36]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:37:04 +0000 From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" To: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] question about RFC 2911 and job template attributes Thread-Topic: [IPP] question about RFC 2911 and job template attributes Thread-Index: AQHNC3GoPPhlYSrbjEG4W0+rafyIjw== Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:37:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5BEBD8F3-14F0-4D8E-877E-C72E081B0D1F@hp.com> <77E7D1BC-4E27-4671-BF76-BB15BC9F0B5C@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <77E7D1BC-4E27-4671-BF76-BB15BC9F0B5C@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [15.192.0.62] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: D2BBE7968F.A8F02 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thanks for the quick reply, Mike! And thanks for your patience as well - I= should have re-read RFC 2911 and 3196 to answer my own questions. Cheers, Smith On 2012-03-26, at 11:09 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, >=20 > On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> RFC 2911 Section 4.2 "Job Template Attributes" includes the statement "A= n attribute "xxx" may be supported for some document formats and not suppor= ted for other document formats". If there is an interest in presenting UI = corresponding to different attributes, and some were not supported by a par= ticular document format, the code presenting the UI would likely want to no= t present or disable the UI elements for those that are not supported so th= at the user's expectations are not violated. What IPP operation or operati= ons should a client use to query the IPP server to discover what attributes= are supported for a particular document format on a particular Printer Obj= ect? >=20 >=20 > The values returned by Get-Printer-Attributes can be "colored" (historica= l terminology) based upon a "document-format" attribute supplied in that re= quest. Pending extensions in the JPS3 spec allow a Printer to advertise ad= ditional attributes that contribute to coloring of values, for example a Pr= inter might allow the "sides" attribute to be specified as well and only re= turn those media sizes that support duplexing. >=20 > Other pending extensions in JPS3 allow for generic client-side (job-const= raints-supported, job-resolvers-supported) and printer-side (Validate-Job p= referred-attributes) constraint resolution when simple coloring (filtering)= of -supported and -default values is insufficient. >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Mar 30 09:49:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FCB21F85F3 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.759 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.759 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.362, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TJIPeY61wjCW for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D18221F84D6 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB34795DE; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:49:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from EEAEX01.us.epson.net (eeaex01.eea.epson.com [12.9.144.164]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA01579595 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from EEAEX02.us.epson.net ([148.130.64.7]) by EEAEX01.us.epson.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:48:40 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:48:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Media Color for MSN spec Thread-Index: Ac0OlPURI89BlYDDQRmdwoRnsB1auw== From: "Petrie, Glen" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2012 16:48:40.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5C77290:01CD0E94] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1853709162==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: DBB34795DE.A86E1 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1853709162== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD0E94.F5EF0F10" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD0E94.F5EF0F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, =20 I have completed the table for media colors for the msn spec. (I have already provided the data to Mike.) The (summary) table and set of snap-shot images from a color application shows more details for each color. =20 The actual colors are initially based on the government standard for media color at http://www.gpo.gov/customers/text/vol11/123.htm. Please note that the l*ab value for buff has an error (the -25.7 should be +25.7). The remainder of the colors were either determined using the government values as seed or based on the "actual color" =20 Please note that some of the colors in the table are for PAPER COLOR and NOT JUST for the COLOR. For example, Blue is for the paper color called blue (from the government std) and not the color blue.=20 =20 Please examine the information. If you or your company has better or different values, I can make changes. =20 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.doc=20 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.pdf=20 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors.djvu=20 =20 djvu reader/writer can be found at http://djvu.org/resources/=20 Color application is called OpenRGB found at=20=20 http://www.logicol.com/index.php?X=3DORGB&LogicolId=3Ddd59d1b2413bd8744edc93 f54598a9ac=20 =20 =20 glen =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD0E94.F5EF0F10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

 

I have completed the table for media colors for the msn spec.   (I = have already provided the data to Mike.)   The (summary) table and set= of snap-shot images from a color application shows more details for each color= .

 

The actual colors are initially based on the government standard for media colo= r at http://www.gpo.go= v/customers/text/vol11/123.htm.  Please note that the l*ab value for buff has an error (the -25.7 should be +25.7).  The remainder of the colors were either determined using the government values as seed or based on the “actual color”

 

Please note that some of the colors in the table are for PAPER COLOR and NOT JUST = for the COLOR.  For example, Blue is for the paper color called blue (from= the government std) and not the color blue.

 

Please examine the information.  If you or your company has better or differe= nt values, I can make changes.

 

= ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.doc

= ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.pdf

ftp://f= tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors.djvu

 

djvu reader/writer can be found at http:/= /djvu.org/resources/

Color application is called OpenRGB found at  

http://www.logicol.com/index.php?X=3DORGB&Logi= colId=3Ddd59d1b2413bd8744edc93f54598a9ac

 

 

glen

 


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Any objections before I integrate Glen's table into the next draft? On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote: > All, >=20=20 > I have completed the table for media colors for the msn spec. (I have a= lready provided the data to Mike.) The (summary) table and set of snap-sh= ot images from a color application shows more details for each color. >=20=20 > The actual colors are initially based on the government standard for medi= a color athttp://www.gpo.gov/customers/text/vol11/123.htm. Please note tha= t the l*ab value for buff has an error (the -25.7 should be +25.7). The re= mainder of the colors were either determined using the government values as= seed or based on the =93actual color=94 >=20=20 > Please note that some of the colors in the table are for PAPER COLOR and = NOT JUST for the COLOR. For example, Blue is for the paper color called bl= ue (from the government std) and not the color blue. >=20=20 > Please examine the information. If you or your company has better or dif= ferent values, I can make changes. >=20=20 > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.doc > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.pdf > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors.djvu >=20=20 > djvu reader/writer can be found at http://djvu.org/resources/ > Color application is called OpenRGB found at=20=20 > http://www.logicol.com/index.php?X=3DORGB&LogicolId=3Ddd59d1b2413bd8744ed= c93f54598a9ac >=20=20 >=20=20 > glen >=20=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_0xULYo4hsLEw8Bz0HUpXOw) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Any objections before I integrate Glen's table into the next draft?


On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Petrie, = Glen wrote:

All,
 
I have completed the table= for media colors for the msn spec.   (I have already provided th= e data to Mike.)   The (summary) table and set of snap-shot image= s from a color application shows more details for each color.
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The actual colors are initially based on the government standard fo= r media color athttp://www.gpo.gov/customers/text/vol11= /123.htm.  Please note that the l*ab value for buff has an error (= the -25.7 should be +25.7).  The remainder of the colors were either d= etermined using the government values as seed or based on the =93actual col= or=94
 
Please note that some of the colors in the table= are for PAPER COLOR and NOT JUST for the COLOR.  For example, Blue is= for the paper color called blue (from the government std) and not the colo= r blue.
 
Please examine the information.  If you o= r your company has better or different values, I can make changes.
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If you think so, we may want= to push this email to the mailing list. Done! > Green is problematic All of these colors are problematic as they are approximations/generic name= to value mappings. The key improvement, aside from defining standard sRGB = reference values, is to support a naming convention that allows for a more = accurate sRGB reference value. > White is called White 82 (paper brightness 82); so from the table it is p= roblematic Actually if the name is White 82 (which should be converted to keyword form= - maybe white-82?) then that isn't a conflict with "pure" white. > Is it realistic to have colorant and paper color in the table. For me a= t least, when I think of green paper, I think of a sort of light green (i.e= . the stuff we all use in our office. Yes there is a dark green paper too.= ) Green colorant is really not the same color. A simple test, if I print= with a colorant of color Foo on to a media of the same color Foo, can I se= e what was printed? In theory; no. However, =93every=94 blue paper is s= lightly different. Just as every vendors' colorant is slightly different. > Another consideration is that table really is a mix of colorant and media= . I don=92t really know of a magenta media It is usually marketed as pink/fluorescent pink. > and I don=92t know of a goldenrod colorant (maybe some highlight or spot = color). I would hoping we could leave out highlight/spot colors since most= are =93made by hand=94 to met a specific customer=92s specification (i.e. = Coca-Cola Red is a specific L*ab value not just red). The color table (bo= th tables) should be extensible.=20 That's why we have the user/vendor naming conventions that include sRGB(A) = reference values. > From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:39 PM > To: Petrie, Glen > Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec >=20=20 > Glen, >=20=20 > This is actually something we talked about briefly at the last F2F (thoug= h I did not capture it in the minutes, grumble grumble...) - RFC 3805 refer= s back to MSN (indirectly, I forget exactly) in order to pick up ISO and ot= her color names for colorants and media. >=20=20 > So I will clarify the intro text and table, and bring up the color naming= issue (where there are conflicts) at the F2F. So far blue and yellow are t= he only colors I think are problematic, but I'll continue to look at it whi= le I merge your stuff in... >=20=20 > The issue with two tables is the overlap - white, black, orange, magenta,= red, and green (at least) are both colorant and media colors and we can re= asonably use the same names and sRGB values for both. Better, I think, to s= imply note the few colors where we chose one name over the other. >=20=20 >=20=20 > On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote: >=20 >=20 > Mike, >=20=20 > I did not realize it was colorant and media color. I could add colorant= values back in (i.e. blue color). >=20=20 > A longer term solution is have two table. >=20=20 >=20=20 > Glen >=20=20 >=20=20 > From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:00 AM > To: Petrie, Glen > Cc: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec >=20=20 > FWIW, because MSN defines both colorant and media color names, I think it= makes sense to add "paper" to any paper colors that are obviously differen= t from the corresponding colorant/primary colors (like blue). >=20=20 > Any objections before I integrate Glen's table into the next draft? >=20=20 >=20=20 > On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > All, >=20=20 > I have completed the table for media colors for the msn spec. (I have a= lready provided the data to Mike.) The (summary) table and set of snap-sh= ot images from a color application shows more details for each color. >=20=20 > The actual colors are initially based on the government standard for medi= a color athttp://www.gpo.gov/customers/text/vol11/123.htm. Please note tha= t the l*ab value for buff has an error (the -25.7 should be +25.7). The re= mainder of the colors were either determined using the government values as= seed or based on the =93actual color=94 >=20=20 > Please note that some of the colors in the table are for PAPER COLOR and = NOT JUST for the COLOR. For example, Blue is for the paper color called bl= ue (from the government std) and not the color blue. >=20=20 > Please examine the information. If you or your company has better or dif= ferent values, I can make changes. >=20=20 > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.doc > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors-Summary.pdf > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/PwgMsnColors.djvu >=20=20 > djvu reader/writer can be found at http://djvu.org/resources/ > Color application is called OpenRGB found at=20=20 > http://www.logicol.com/index.php?X=3DORGB&LogicolId=3Ddd59d1b2413bd8744ed= c93f54598a9ac >=20=20 >=20=20 > glen >=20=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20=20 >=20=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20=20 ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_S7DYVNH4XBZW4Q9GjrmuQg) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Is it a good = discussion item for the f2f.    If you think so, we may want= to push this email to the mailing list.

Done!

Green is problematic
All of these colors are problematic as they are approximations/gener= ic name to value mappings. The key improvement, aside from defining standar= d sRGB reference values, is to support a naming convention that allows for = a more accurate sRGB reference value.

White is called White 82 (paper brightnes= s 82); so from the table it is problematic

Actually if the name is White 82 (which should be converted to keyword fo= rm - maybe white-82?) then that isn't a conflict with "pure" white.

Is it reali= stic to have colorant and paper color in the table.   For me at l= east, when I think of green paper, I think of a sort of light green (i.e. t= he stuff we all use in our office.  Yes there is a dark green paper to= o.)  Green colorant is really not the same color.   A simple= test, if I print with a colorant of color Foo on to a media of the same co= lor Foo, can I see what was printed?   In theory; no.   = ;However, =93every=94 blue paper is slightly different.
=

Just as every vendors' colorant is slightly different.
=

Another= consideration is that table really is a mix of colorant and media. &n= bsp; I don=92t really know of a magenta media

<= /div>It is usually marketed as pink/fluorescent pink.

and I don=92t know of a = goldenrod colorant (maybe some highlight or spot color).  I would hopi= ng we could leave out highlight/spot colors since most are =93made by hand= =94 to met a specific customer=92s specification (i.e. Coca-Cola Red is a s= pecific L*ab value not just red).   The color table (both tables)= should be extensible. 

That's why w= e have the user/vendor naming conventions that include sRGB(A) reference va= lues.

Fro= m:&nbs= p;Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 30= , 2012 12:39 PM
To: 
Petrie, Glen
Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec
 
Glen,
 
This is actually something we talked= about briefly at the last F2F (though I did not capture it in the minutes,= grumble grumble...) - RFC 3805 refers back to MSN (indirectly, I forget ex= actly) in order to pick up ISO and other color names for colorants and medi= a.
 
So I= will clarify the intro text and table, and bring up the color naming issue= (where there are conflicts) at the F2F. So far blue and yellow are the onl= y colors I think are problematic, but I'll continue to look at it while I m= erge your stuff in...
 
The issue with two tables is the overlap - white, black, ora= nge, magenta, red, and green (at least) are both colorant and media colors = and we can reasonably use the same names and sRGB values for both. Better, = I think, to simply note the few colors where we chose one name over the oth= er.
 
 
On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Petrie= , Glen wrote:


 
I did not realize it was = colorant and media color.   I could add colorant values back in (= i.e. blue color).
 
A longer term sol= ution is have two table.
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 = ;
Glen
 
 

From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:00 AM
 Petrie,= Glen
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject:
 Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec
<= o:p>
 
FWIW, because MSN defines both colorant and media co= lor names, I think it makes sense to add "paper" to any paper colors that a= re obviously different from the corresponding colorant/primary colors (like= blue).
 <= /u1:p>
Any objections befor= e I integrate Glen's table into the next draft?
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On Mar 30, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:



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= All,
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I have completed the table for media colors for the msn s= pec.   (I have already provided the data to Mike.)   Th= e (summary) table and set of snap-shot images from a color application show= s more details for each color.=
 
The actual = colors are initially based on the government standard for media color athttp://www.gpo.gov/customers/text/vol11/123.htm. = Please note that the l*ab value for buff has an error (the -25.7 should be= +25.7).  The remainder of the colors were either determined using the= government values as seed or based on the =93actual color=94<= u1:p>
<= u2:p> 
<= div>
Please note that some of the colors in the table are for = PAPER COLOR and NOT JUST for the COLOR.  For example, Blue is for the = paper color called blue (from the government std) and not the color blue.
 
<= /div>
Please examine the information.  If you = or your company has better or different values, I can make changes.
 
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djvu read= er/writer can be found at http://djvu.org/resources/
Color applicati= on is called OpenRGB found at  
 
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glen
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Solid paper colors which match up to what I'd expect for a colorant color: http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Assorted-Colors/product_733088 Solid paper colors which map to alternate colors, some of which match what you might use for a colorant color (for purposes of UI...): http://www.staples.com/Staples-Pastel-Colored-Copy-Paper-11-x-17-Assorted-Colors/product_679462 Neon colors: http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Neon-Assorted/product_733097 And even within a single supplier, you'll find multiple products with the same color name but vastly different actual colors: GREEN http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Green-Ream/product_490879 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Green/product_733093 ORANGE http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Orange-Ream/product_490881 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Orange/product_733086 Then there are names we don't have (again from the same Staples search results for "colored paper"): bright white (synonym for current "white"?) canary cherry cream fuschia grape juniper lilac orchid purple salmon teal Finally, there are the vendor adjectives ("Pulsar Pink", "Solar Yellow", etc.), but I feel safe ignoring those for this spec... :) __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_VaVdclZNQkAEr4JL/WHdMw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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Here are some "reference" pages I pulled from a search on staples.com for "colored paper"...


Solid paper colors which match up to what I= 'd expect for a colorant color:

 

Solid paper col= ors which map to alternate colors, some of which match what you might use f= or a colorant color (for purposes of UI...):



And even within a single supplier, you'll f= ind multiple products with the same color name but vastly different actual = colors:

GREEN




Then there ar= e names we don't have (again from the same Staples search results for "colo= red paper"):

bright white (synonym for current "white"?)=
canary
cherry
cream
fuschia
grape
juniper
lilac
orchid
purple
salmon<= /div>
= teal

Finally, there are the vendor adjectives ("Pu= lsar Pink", "Solar Yellow", etc.), but I feel safe ignoring those for this = spec... :)

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I still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same color. I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like "green" is used for several different "green colored" media.=20=20=20 =20 As you stated in the last email "magenta colored media" is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink. So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the """"same"""" color. Is there a "well-known" list of colored media names? =20 What I did not consider at the time was investigating the actual paper manufactures (that would a shorter list) instead of distributor or retailers. Note that distributors and retailers give product "interesting name" for selling/marketing purposes which increases the problem. =20 Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media. Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list.=20 =20 I would hope any list for colorant is short(er) and fairly well known even if there are variations in the actual rgb value of a specific colorant color. =20 Glen =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:51 PM To: Petrie, Glen Cc: Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec =20 All, =20 Here are some "reference" pages I pulled from a search on staples.com for "colored paper"... =20 =20 Solid paper colors which match up to what I'd expect for a colorant color: =20 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Assorted-Colo rs/product_733088 =20 =20 Solid paper colors which map to alternate colors, some of which match what you might use for a colorant color (for purposes of UI...): =20 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Pastel-Colored-Copy-Paper-11-x-17-Assorte d-Colors/product_679462 =20 =20 Neon colors: =20 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Neon-Assorted /product_733097 =20 =20 And even within a single supplier, you'll find multiple products with the same color name but vastly different actual colors: =20 GREEN =20 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Green-Re am/product_490879 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Green/product _733093 =20 =20 ORANGE =20 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Orange-R eam/product_490881 =20 http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Orange/produc t_733086 =20 =20 Then there are names we don't have (again from the same Staples search results for "colored paper"): =20 bright white (synonym for current "white"?) canary cherry cream fuschia grape juniper lilac orchid purple salmon teal =20 Finally, there are the vendor adjectives ("Pulsar Pink", "Solar Yellow", etc.), but I feel safe ignoring those for this spec... :) =20 __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD0EBB.ED0A3D08 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike

 

Thanks for jogging my memory on some= of the more vivid colored media.  I still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same color.  I looked at these and others;= most do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like “greenR= 21; is used for several different “green colored” media.  = ;

 

As you stated in the last email R= 20;magenta colored media” is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink.  So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the= “”””same”””” color.   Is there a “well-known” list of colored media names?

 

What I did not consider at the time = was investigating the actual paper manufactures (that would a shorter list) ins= tead of distributor or retailers.    Note that distributors and retailers give product “interesting name” for selling/marketing purposes which increases the problem.

 

Perhaps, as time, permits I can cont= act one or more manufactures to see if can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media.  Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list.

 

I would hope any list for colorant is short(er) and fairly well known even if there are variations in the actual = rgb value of a specific colorant color.

 

Glen

 

 

 

 

 


From: Michael = Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012= 1:51 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Col= or for MSN spec

 

All,

 

Here are some "reference" pages I pulled from a search on= staples.com for "colored paper"..= .

 

 

Solid paper colors which match up to what I'd expect for a colorant color:

 

 

 

Solid paper colors which map to alternate colors, some of which mat= ch what you might use for a colorant color (for purposes of UI...):=

 

 

 

Neon colors:

 

 

 

And even within a single supplier, you'll find multiple products wi= th the same color name but vastly different actual colors:

 

   = ;         GREE= N

 

 

 

   = ;         ORANGE=

 

 

 

Then there are names we don't have (again from the same Staples sea= rch results for "colored paper"):

 

   = ;         brig= ht white (synonym for current "white"?)

   = ;         cana= ry

   = ;         cher= ry

   = ;         crea= m

   = ;         fusc= hia

   = ;         grap= e

   = ;         juni= per

   = ;         lila= c

   = ;         orch= id

   = ;         purp= le

   = ;         salm= on

   = ;         teal=

 

Finally, there are the vendor adjectives ("Pulsar Pink", "Solar Yellow", etc.), but I feel safe ignoring those for this sp= ec... :)

 

__________________________________________________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer,= PWG Chair

 


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I = still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same col= or. I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in many = cases a color name like =93green=94 is used for several different =93green = colored=94 media.=20=20 Right. IMHO our focus for the MSN color names should be on identifying com= mon or primary colors with simple variations (I like light, dark, and clear= ) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client should be able = to present UI with both the name and the reference color to facilitate medi= a selection or monitoring of printer supplies. We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches for color since a) that isn'= t feasible given the number of different media and colorants we would need = to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are different enough= that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exactly match th= e media or colorant anyways. > As you stated in the last email =93magenta colored media=94 is sold as pi= nk/fluorescent-pink. So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-p= ink media; even thought they are the =93=94=94=94same=94=94=94=94 color. = Is there a =93well-known=94 list of colored media names? There are several :) including the specs we already reference. However, non= e of them exactly match what is manufactured today and due to the issues I = mentioned above I don't think it matters that we have an exhaustive list or= "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primary colors. > Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see i= f can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media. Short of= that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to deter= mine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list. Aside from maybe Teal in my list below (which doesn't have a close match), = I don't think we need to extend our current list. New colors can be added u= sing our standard naming convention with sRGB reference values, and I have = no objection to listing common aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple -> Dar= k Magenta, Fuschia/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pink, etc. = like we do for media sizes. We could also allow _RRGGBB[AA] to identify a specific v= ersion of a named color - that would allow for localization using the stand= ard names but presentation using the custom color. Thoughts? ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_FU5BaDJsg43yEFfnLmld/w) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Glen,
=
On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:

Mike

 

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for jogging my memory on some= of the more vivid colored media.  I still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same color.  I looked at these and others;= most do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like =93green=94 is used for several different =93green colored=94 media.  


Right.  IMHO our focus for the MSN color names should be on= identifying common or primary colors with simple variations (I like light,= dark, and clear) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client= should be able to present UI with both the name and the reference color to= facilitate media selection or monitoring of printer supplies.
We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches for color since= a) that isn't feasible given the number of different media and colorants w= e would need to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are dif= ferent enough that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exa= ctly match the media or colorant anyways.

As you stated in the last email =93m= agenta colored media=94 is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink.  So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the= =93=94=94=94same=94=94=94=94 color.   Is there a =93well-known=94 list of colored media names?


There are several :) including the specs we already = reference. However, none of them exactly match what is manufactured today a= nd due to the issues I mentioned above I don't think it matters that we hav= e an exhaustive list or "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primar= y colors.

Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media.  Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list.


Aside from maybe Teal in my li= st below (which doesn't have a close match), I don't think we need to exten= d our current list. New colors can be added using our standard naming conve= ntion with sRGB reference values, and I have no objection to listing common= aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple -> Dark Magenta, Fuschi= a/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pink, etc. like we do = for media sizes.

We could also allow <standardcolorna= me>_RRGGBB[AA] to identify a specific version of a named color - that wo= uld allow for localization using the standard names but presentation using = the custom color.

Thoughts?

________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Thread-Index: AQHNDsFw0dQ0yW6WDUWHDShDVoPDVA== Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:07:04 +0000 Message-ID: <24AA8057-818C-4377-9CAD-BF06D17C20C1@hp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [15.8.24.54] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3409868E3485A8499A937E5055C2F388@Compaq.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] IPP and HTTP/1.1 pipelining - thoughts or positions? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: AB12A79608.A87F8 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Hello again, I was reading about HTTP/1.1 pipelining, and wondered about whether any con= sideration has been paid to how this might be used in the context of IPP. = Since each HTTP POST must include only one IPP operation as a payload, ther= e seem to be times when it might be helpful, such as when using one connect= ion as a transport to send multiple operations. However, RFC 2616 Section 8.1.2.2 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#secti= on-8.1.2) says this: Clients SHOULD NOT pipeline requests using non-idempotent methods or non-idempotent sequences of methods (see section 9.1.2). Otherwise, a premature termination of the transport connection could lead to indeterminate results. A client wishing to send a non-idempotent request SHOULD wait to send that request until it has received the response status for the previous request. RFC 2616 section 9.1.2 says that the POST method is non-idempotent, for und= erstandable reasons. But in the context of IPP, it seems to me that the id= empotency of the IPP operation, not the HTTP request method, that should be= considered. For instance, the Get-Job-Status or Get-Job-Supported-Values = operations, and even the Set-Printer-Attributes operation as well, are all = idempotent as far as the Printer, Job and Subscription objects are concerne= d. Is there an official position on pipelining for IPP that overrides the reco= mmendations for HTTP/1.1 laid out in RFC 2616 Section 8.1.2.2? Thanks for any thoughts, Smith --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Mar 30 15:11:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0288221F85B4 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001, WEIRD_QUOTING=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41s1oXbT3Oyp for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D0821F85AD for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEAF7968F; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:10:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from EEAEX01.us.epson.net (eeaex01.eea.epson.com [12.9.144.164]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24CD7966D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from EEAEX02.us.epson.net ([148.130.64.7]) by EEAEX01.us.epson.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:10:12 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:10:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec Thread-Index: Ac0OwOk162yvsjenQCKIPgn1mn94pgAAFwCg References: <67529BB6-79EC-4192-8D7C-2C993B6AE2AB@apple.com> <042085EA-C2DF-4D10-BF0B-430F536C5159@apple.com> <94734916-792A-4B56-BEA8-0436360DA807@apple.com> <244BA6F1-62B9-47E8-AE5B-4EB7121E3449@apple.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" To: "Michael Sweet" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2012 22:10:12.0211 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0882C30:01CD0EC1] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1787406591==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: BAEAF7968F.A8F33 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1787406591== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD0EC1.E072C20C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD0EC1.E072C20C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,=20 =20 I agree with your points you make below Given has a chance, any discussion or specification related to color quickly gets out of hand. So keeping the list short and color values "representative" is the best course of action.=20=20 =20 Glen =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]=20 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 2:51 PM To: Petrie, Glen Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec =20 Glen, =20 On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote: Mike =09=20 Thanks for jogging my memory on some of the more vivid colored media. I still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same color. I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like "green" is used for several different "green colored" media.=20=20=20 =20 Right. IMHO our focus for the MSN color names should be on identifying common or primary colors with simple variations (I like light, dark, and clear) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client should be able to present UI with both the name and the reference color to facilitate media selection or monitoring of printer supplies. =20 We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches for color since a) that isn't feasible given the number of different media and colorants we would need to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are different enough that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exactly match the media or colorant anyways. =20 As you stated in the last email "magenta colored media" is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink. So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the """"same"""" color. Is there a "well-known" list of colored media names? =20 There are several :) including the specs we already reference. However, none of them exactly match what is manufactured today and due to the issues I mentioned above I don't think it matters that we have an exhaustive list or "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primary colors. =20 Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media. Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list. =20 Aside from maybe Teal in my list below (which doesn't have a close match), I don't think we need to extend our current list. New colors can be added using our standard naming convention with sRGB reference values, and I have no objection to listing common aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple -> Dark Magenta, Fuschia/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pink, etc. like we do for media sizes. =20 We could also allow _RRGGBB[AA] to identify a specific version of a named color - that would allow for localization using the standard names but presentation using the custom color. =20 Thoughts? =20 ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD0EC1.E072C20C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike,

 

I agree with your points you make be= low   Given has a chance, any discussion or specification related to color quickly gets out of hand.   So keeping the list short and color values &#= 8220;representative” is the best course of action. 

 

Glen

 

 


From: Michael = Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012= 2:51 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Col= or for MSN spec

 

Glen,

 

On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<= /font>

Mike=

 

Thanks for jogging my memory on some= of the more vivid colored media.  I still not sure colorant and media wit= h the same color name are the same color.  I looked at these and others; mos= t do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like “green”= is used for several different “green colored” media.  

 

Right.  IMHO our focus for the MSN color names should be on identifying common or primary colors with simple variations (I like light, dark, and clear) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client should be able to present UI with both the name and the reference color to facilitate media selection or monitoring of printer supplies.

 

We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches for color since a) t= hat isn't feasible given the number of different media and colorants we would n= eed to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are different enough that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exactly match the media or colorant anyways.

 

As you stated in the last email R= 20;magenta colored media” is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink.  So do we have = magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the “”””same”””” color.  &= nbsp;Is there a “well-known” list of colored media names?

 

There are several :) including the specs we already reference. Howe= ver, none of them exactly match what is manufactured today and due to the issues= I mentioned above I don't think it matters that we have an exhaustive list or "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primary colors.=

 

Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if can provi= de rgb values for the various colored and white media.  Short of that, I = have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media r= gb value for each color media we decide to list.

 

Aside from maybe Teal in my list below (which doesn't have a c= lose match), I don't think we need to extend our current list. New colors can be added using our standard naming convention with sRGB reference values, and I have no objection to listing common aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple -> Dark Magenta, Fuschia/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pink, etc. like we do for media sizes.=

 

We could also allow <standardcolorname>_RRGGBB[AA] to identif= y a specific version of a named color - that would allow for localization using= the standard names but presentation using the custom color.

 

Thoughts?

 

____________________________________= ____________________________________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

 


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From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <24AA8057-818C-4377-9CAD-BF06D17C20C1@hp.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:22:42 -0700 Message-id: References: <24AA8057-818C-4377-9CAD-BF06D17C20C1@hp.com> To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1276) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTW9fJoczfYMlvEYtj+16yWBz5Fmvx qmsXswOzx9aTP9g8dm3byeQxb/F0pgDmKC6blNSczLLUIn27BK6M09PXsRa0CVX8vXmApYHx MV8XIyeHhICJxMxTncwQtpjEhXvr2UBsIYHpTBI7D7uD2MIC7hI/zn8Fi/MKGEo8enMdrJ5Z QEvixr+XTCA2m4CaxO9JfawgNqeAlcS7/SvBbBYBVYlnmxYzQtQrSiyb/ocVwtaWWLbwNTPE TBuJhbs2MELstZRYOmEdWI2IgIPE8yWfWCBuk5W42NXHNIGRfxaSM2YhOWMWkrELGJlXMQoW peYkVhqa6yUWFOSk6iXn525iBIVhQ6HQDsb7u/QOMQpwMCrx8FZdLPUXYk0sK67MPcQowcGs JMLbvbrEX4g3JbGyKrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjjvhM9AKYH0xJLU7NTUgtQimCwTB6dUAyO7 pMZ2tc6HduEfXLSWVkmsVb6doBtRxyNZErTibtXdwr5lWr9vf2FVXH7tPeuU0vbcumslIkrT HV418fi+bZCaq8AS+iBCloW51ufFE0mm1ckXtwdPCDzrWMt8kMVQyzqr7olznNj2Vlm1DR81 5m7gOhK08obVNH55V14TRVHlv0H1m3iLlFiKMxINtZiLihMBnc9rJj8CAAA= X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 58C077960E.A93D6 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Smith, On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) wrote: > ... > RFC 2616 section 9.1.2 says that the POST method is non-idempotent, for understandable reasons. But in the context of IPP, it seems to me that the idempotency of the IPP operation, not the HTTP request method, that should be considered. For instance, the Get-Job-Status or Get-Job-Supported-Values operations, and even the Set-Printer-Attributes operation as well, are all idempotent as far as the Printer, Job and Subscription objects are concerned. Because IPP is layered over HTTP and uses POST operations, all of the issues with HTTP request processing apply whether the corresponding IPP operation is idempotent or not. You just can't safely pipeline multiple IPP request messages to an IPP printer since any one of those requests may fail and close the HTTP connection (particularly for things like authentication) or otherwise return an error that you cannot (reliably) link to a particular request. And speaking of authentication, all IPP clients should be using the HTTP Expect header to elicit a 100 (continue), 401 (unauthorized), 403 (forbidden), or 426 (upgrade) response before the IPP request message and document data is sent - that also prevents pipelining from being used. But back to your original question, we might be able to define (in IPP terms, not HTTP) certain IPP operations (like Get-Job-Attributes, Get-Printer-Supported-Values) as idempotent, but others (like Set-Printer-Attributes) specifically have side-effects that make them non-idempotent. This is one of the reasons RFC 2616 talks about HTML forms and GET vs. POST - query forms using GET are OK, but forms that cause something to change/happen have to use POST because they are not idempotent. > Is there an official position on pipelining for IPP that overrides the recommendations for HTTP/1.1 laid out in RFC 2616 Section 8.1.2.2? You'll find an errata to RFC 3196 (IPP Implementers Guide) on this; basically, pipelining of and early responses to POST requests are not allowed, per RFC 2616. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Mar 30 16:45:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610721F86AF for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.421 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.421 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eeQbsWVsQYqo for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F1E21F86A8 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB6B7962C; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:44:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98162795D7 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:44:36 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay17.apple.com ([17.128.113.18]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0M1Q003B61Y6KQI0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:44:36 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807112-b7f306d000000b59-0d-4f764563ac1c Received: from msweet.apple.com (msweet.apple.com [17.197.41.43]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay17.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 85.10.02905.365467F4; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:44:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:44:35 -0700 To: "" Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1276) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUieFRTWzfZtczf4Nshc4tj+16yWBz5FuvA 5LH15A82j3mLpzMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZUxYfpWtYI5KxdRVqxgbGKcpdDFyckgImEic Pb+VEcIWk7hwbz0biC0kMJ1JoqdTFsRmE1CT+D2pjxXEZhZIkHg85RoLiM0ioCqxZPsedhBb WEBTYumpJWA1IgKKEj+nbQebyStgI3Fs8WMWCNtQ4tGb68wQu2QlLnb1MU1g5J6FZOwsJGUQ cW2JZQtfA9kcQLaOxOSFjKjCEPbH80eYFjCyrWIULErNSaw0NNdLLCjISdVLzs/dxAgKrIZC oR2M93fpHWIU4GBU4uGtuljqL8SaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEt3t1ib8Qb0piZVVqUX58UWlOavEh RmkOFiVx3gmfgVIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZJg5OqQbGBe7ah12Cb0z4xMz2c9kOgVM+2kcWPVZg 2pS55vELlk8GBZvE7l35mjnbp/9dwhlrgXApnvuy8znUTp57sslx+5q1M7je2h3x88yfIv1V 51vti7AVk94xN1Zpufow7v58VPBDS0malrBzZK75PmFOjlt/riZVb4mYd+nXuckrNvD+UX96 MCzLVYmlOCPRUIu5qDgRAI9OYCAoAgAA X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP registrations posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0623754434==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 4BB6B7962C.A7BAA X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0623754434== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LOwCLmRlstu7EBufaB2vGw)" --Boundary_(ID_LOwCLmRlstu7EBufaB2vGw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted (yet another) update to the IPP registry to account for missing or bad registrations of operations and some 5100.3 -supported attributes. Results are available here: http://www.pwg.org/ipp http://www.pwg.org/ipp/ipp-registrations.xml Please let me know if you see any other problems - I have one outstanding change pending and then we'll be pushing the updates to IANA. Enjoy! ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_LOwCLmRlstu7EBufaB2vGw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I = have posted (yet another) update to the IPP registry to account for missing= or bad registrations of operations and some 5100.3 -supported attributes. = Results are available here:


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Please let me know if you see any other problems - I have one ou= tstanding change pending and then we'll be pushing the updates to IANA.

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Two lists in MSN would break some of the mixed use (e.g., in RFC 3805) in different properties and would make job ticket mapping much harder. My two cents. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Petrie, Glen w= rote: > Mike, **** > > ** ** > > I agree with your points you make below Given has a chance, any > discussion or specification related to color quickly gets out of hand. = So > keeping the list short and color values =93representative=94 is the best = course > of action. **** > > ** ** > > Glen**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 2:51 PM > *To:* Petrie, Glen > *Cc:* ipp@pwg.org > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec**** > > ** ** > > Glen,**** > > ** ** > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:**** > > **** > > Mike******** > > ** ****** > > Thanks for jogging my memory on some of the more vivid colored media. I > still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same > color. I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in > many cases a color name like =93green=94 is used for several different = =93green > colored=94 media. **** > > ** ** > **** > > Right. IMHO our focus for the MSN color names should be on identifying > common or primary colors with simple variations (I like light, dark, and > clear) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client should be > able to present UI with both the name and the reference color to facilita= te > media selection or monitoring of printer supplies.**** > > ** ** > > We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches for color since a) that > isn't feasible given the number of different media and colorants we would > need to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are different > enough that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exactly > match the media or colorant anyways.**** > > ** ** > > **** > > As you stated in the last email =93magenta colored media=94 is sold as > pink/fluorescent-pink. So do we have magenta colorant and > pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the =93=94=94=94same= =94=94=94=94 color. > Is there a =93well-known=94 list of colored media names?**** > > ** ** > **** > > There are several :) including the specs we already reference. However, > none of them exactly match what is manufactured today and due to the issu= es > I mentioned above I don't think it matters that we have an exhaustive list > or "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primary colors.**** > > ** ** > > **** > > Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if > can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media. Short of > that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to > determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to list.**** > > ** ** > **** > > Aside from maybe Teal in my list below (which doesn't have a close match), > I don't think we need to extend our current list. New colors can be added > using our standard naming convention with sRGB reference values, and I ha= ve > no objection to listing common aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple > -> Dark Magenta, Fuschia/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pin= k, > etc. like we do for media sizes.**** > > ** ** > > We could also allow _RRGGBB[AA] to identify a specific > version of a named color - that would allow for localization using the > standard names but presentation using the custom color.**** > > ** ** > > Thoughts?**** > > ** ** > > ________________________________________________________________________** > ** > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair**** > > ** ** > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d04462e9ecb3b1704bc8b813a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Although it seems suitable, separating color names/values
int= o two tables (media and colorant) would be a bad idea
because ISO DPA (I= SO 10175), Printer MIB v2 (RFC 3805),
IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911), and CIP4 JDF a= ll conflate/combine
the names into a single list.=A0 Two lists in MSN would break
some of th= e mixed use (e.g., in RFC 3805) in different
properties and would make j= ob ticket mapping much harder.

My two cents.

Cheers,
- Ira=
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Petrie,= Glen <g= len.petrie@eitc.epson.com> wrote:

Mike, <= u>

=A0<= /u>

I agree with y= our points you make below=A0=A0 Given has a chance, any discussion or specification related to color quickly gets out of hand. =A0=A0So keeping the list short and color values =93repre= sentative=94 is the best course of action.=A0

=A0<= /u>

Glen=

=A0<= /u>

=A0<= /u>


From: Michael Sw= eet [mailto:msweet@apple.= com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012= 2:51 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Col= or for MSN spec

=A0

Glen,

=A0

On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<= /u>

Mike=

=A0<= /u>

Thanks for jog= ging my memory on some of the more vivid colored media.=A0 I still not sure colorant and media with t= he same color name are the same color. =A0I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in many cases a color name like =93green=94 is used= for several different =93green colored=94 media.=A0=A0 =

=A0

Right. =A0IMHO our focus for the MSN color names sho= uld be on identifying common or primary colors with simple variations (I like light, dark, and clear) along with the reference sRGB values. Ultimately a client should be able to present UI with both the name and the reference color to facilitate media selection or monitoring of printer supplies.=

=A0

We shouldn't get stuck on having exact matches f= or color since a) that isn't feasible given the number of different media and colorants we wou= ld need to list and b) the viewing conditions and technologies are different enough that the sRGB value displayed on-screen is never going to exactly match the media or colorant anyways.

=A0

As you stated = in the last email =93magenta colored media=94 is sold as pink/fluorescent-pink.=A0 So do we have magenta colorant and pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the =93=94=94=94same=94=94=94=94 color. =A0=A0Is there a =93well-known=94 list = of colored media names?

=A0

There are several :) including the specs we already = reference. However, none of them exactly match what is manufactured today and due to the issues= I mentioned above I don't think it matters that we have an exhaustive lis= t or "accurate" sRGB reference values for the non-primary colors.

=A0

Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see if can provi= de rgb values for the various colored and white media.=A0 Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure samples to determine a media r= gb value for each color media we decide to list.

=A0

Aside from maybe Teal=A0in my list below (which does= n't have a close match), I don't think we need to extend our current list. New colors ca= n be added using our standard naming convention with sRGB reference values, and I have no objection to listing common aliases for some colors, e.g., Purple ->=A0Dark Magenta,=A0Fuschia/Fluorescent Pink -> Magenta, Salmon -> Light Pink, etc. like we do for media sizes.

=A0

We could also allow <standardcolorname>_RRGGBB= [AA] to identify a specific version of a named color - that would allow for localization using= the standard names but presentation using the custom color.

=A0

Thoughts?

=A0

__________________________= ______________________________________________<= /p>

Michael Sweet, Senior Prin= ting System Engineer, PWG Chair

=A0


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