CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Tony Bates/RIPE Minutes of the Generic Internet Service Specification BOF (GISS) Agenda o Short presentation of GISS work so far o Discussion of whether a working group is needed o Review of proposed working charter It was noted that the attendance at this meeting was quite low. However, this can, in part, be attributed to an unfortunate timing clash with the most popular session of the IETF - the IPng Decision Process BOF (IPDECIDE). GISS Work Presentation Tony Bates gave a presentation of the current GISS work. The document has changed quite dramatically since the last BOF meeting. A second draft is available from: ftp.ripe.net:ripe/docs/ripe-drafts/giss.[txt,ps] The major changes are in the focus and structure of the document. The document is aimed at service providers. Six areas of GISS have been highlighted: 1. Access 2. Generic Services 3. Connectivity 4. Operations 5. Information Provision and Coordination 6. Security Currently 38 aspects have been highlighted in the first cut of GISS. Many are still to be completed. The intention is to have aspects contributed by relevant experts rather than the authors themselves. The structure of the document is very much like a UNIX manual page, making it easy to index only the GISS aspects of direct interest. It was agreed that the current areas and aspects were more than enough for a first GISS document. 1 An issue was raised as to whether GISS could in fact be renamed to GISD ``Generic Internet Service Description'' as is intimated in the document itself. It was agreed that the next draft and all future work will be referred to as GISD. Working Group Discussion The issue of whether a working group is needed was discussed. The clear consensus was that such a document is badly needed by service providers. It was felt the correct forum should be some sort of ``operators'' forum rather than the IETF itself. However, such a group doesn't really exist, at least in a global context. In Europe, RIPE is such a group and a GISS-based working group will continue within RIPE. Andrew Partan also mentioned the possibility of such an operators forum being formed in North America. However, until such time, the IETF seems to contain the correct target audience, or to be more precise, many service providers also attend the IETF. It was agreed that the chair would request that a GISD Working Group be formed within the Operations Area once the charter has been accepted by the group. A request along with the charter would be sent to Scott Bradner. Proposed Working Group Charter Review The charter was circulated. Apart from typographical changes and changes in wording (to make it clear that providers meant all forms of service providers, not just commercial), the charter was accepted. o Name: Generic Internet Service Description (GISD) o Chairs: Tony Bates and Daniel Karrenberg o Mailing Lists: - General Discussion: giss-wg@ripe.net - To Subscribe: giss-wg-request@ripe.net o Description: GISD collects short descriptions of Internet service aspects. Internet service in GISD means the interaction of Internet service providers among themselves and with their users. GISD aims to provide a common frame of reference and vocabulary to talk about an Internet service. For each aspect of the Internet service, it describes different options for service provision in use in the current Internet. GISD is merely descriptive and does not 2 proscribe or mandate. GISD is intended to be a living document collecting work of many contributors. The GISD Working Group will update and revise the GISD document to assist network service providers in a better understanding and description of what Internet service means. It will: - Update and revise the GISD document that lists the areas and aspects of interest to TCP/IP network service providers. - Identify additional GISD areas and aspects appropriate to GISD. - Identify areas of overlap with other IETF working groups. - Create a reference document of GISD terms. - Establish procedures to ensure the ongoing maintenance of the document and identify an organisation willing to do it. o Goals and Milestones: - Review current GISD draft and add any additional areas and aspects deamed to be essential. - Draft of GISD will be prepared, reviewed and modified. Initiate IETF Internet-Draft review process by submission of the GISD document to the IETF Secretariat. - Follow-up with final amendments to the document and the submission of the document to the RFC Editor for publication as an FYI RFC. Attendees Tony Bates tony@ripe.net David Conrad davidc@iij.ad.jp Ola Johansson ojn@se.ubn.net Daniel Karrenberg daniel@ripe.net Anne Lord anne@ripe.net Andrew Partan asp@uunet.uu.net Marten Terpstra marten@ripe.net Wilfried Woeber Wilfried.Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at 3