DNSOP WG IETF 54 17:00 16 July 2002 Yokohama, Japan Prepared by Ray Plzak 1) Welcome, scribe, agenda bashing Ray Plzak volunteered to be scribe. There were no changes to the agenda. 2) draft-ietf-dnsop-dontpublish-unreachable-03.txt The Chair solicited comments from the group. Summary: a) There were a few comments concerning the point from which unreachability was determined. The general feeling of the WG was that reachable from where should be specified. b) There was a considerable discussion about the enforcement. There were two points of discussion. First, the provisions of the draft should not be enforced. Second, this would probably become a BCP and that enforcement would be by voluntary participation. There was no conclusion reached. The discussion will continue on the list. c) There was some discussion about the effect that this document would have on NATs. The general sense of the WG was that this document would not pertain to the private side of the NAT. d) The Chair announced that the draft to go to the list for WG last call to solicit further comments. 3) draft-durand-ngtrans-dns-issues-00.txt Alain Durand presented his draft. (Not an ngtrans document. This is a personal submission.) Draft was accepted as a DNSOP WG draft. There was a short discussion about whether using wild cards was a good idea. No conclusion or consensus was reached. The document will be sent to the list for further comment. It was noted by the Area Director that this was the first of several ngtrans related documents that would be sent to the WG for consideration. The other documents may be documents that are currently in the NGTRANS WG. This was part of a general movement to spread NGTRANS documents and issues to the other WG of the IETF as IPv6 was now operational. 4) draft-ietf-dnsop-v6-name-space-fragmentation-01.txt The discussion of this draft was postponed until an analysis of the documents that might be adopted by the DNSOP WG as WG documents from the NGTRANS WG. 5) draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required-03.txt The draft was not discussed. The last call on this document will be delayed so that participation by the IPv6 WG can be solicited. 6) draft-ietf-dnsop-serverid-00.txt There was no presentation of the draft. The author (David Conrad) did note that there were no comments on the list. It was noted that some servers do not always answer a query. A discussion then commenced about whether this draft should provide for an always answerable query. There were several reasons mentioned for having an always answerable query such as finding a bad server in an anycast pool or conducting studies of servers. One reason advanced for not having an always answerable query was that this could be exploited in a denial of service attack. It was noted that the draft has some areas that need to be clarified. Discussion will be continued on the list. 7) Discussion of DNSOP future. It appears that the WG will have additional work with the inclusion of the NGTRANS documents. The Chair will update the charter to reflect this and present it to the WG. 8) AOB - None. 9) Closing. The meeting was adjourned.