I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html ). Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-05.txt Reviewer: Suresh Krishnan Review Date: 2013/11/18 IESG Telechat date: 2013/11/21 Summary: This draft is almost ready for publication as an Informational RFC but I do have a few comments that the authors may wish to consider. Minor ===== * Section 2.1 -> Not sure if the word encoded is appropriate here. s/hardware-encoded/usually implemented in hardware/ -> These two sentences are hard to read and it is not clear what point they are trying to make. Please consider rewording. As such, the current state-of-the-art tends to confirm the said separation, which rather falls under a tautology. But a somewhat centralized, "controller-embedded", control plane for the sake of optimized route computation before FIB population is certainly another story. * Section 3.1 Not sure what this sentence is trying to convey. Can you clarify? Some of these features have also been standardized (e.g., DNS-based routing [RFC1383] that can be seen as an illustration of separated control and forwarding planes or ForCES ([RFC5810][RFC5812])). * Section 3.4 This direct access to some engines using a vendor-specific could be beneficial to performance but may increase configuration complexity (in opposition to the final goal in Section 4.1 of accommodating heterogeneous network technologies). It may be worthwhile to add some text to the following paragraph in this regard. Maintaining hard-coded performance optimization techniques is encouraged. So is the use of interfaces that allow the direct control of some engines (e.g., routing, forwarding) without requiring any in-between adaptation layer (generic objects to vendor-specific CLI commands for instance). * Section 3.5 This sentence is ambiguous OpenFlow is clearly not the "next big thing" Does this mean a) OpenFlow is certainly not the "next best thing" (or) b) It is not clear if OpenFlow will be the "next best thing" Can you please clarify? * Section 3.6 This sentence about non-goals is unclear. What are the "respective software limitations"? o Fully flexible software implementations, because the claimed flexibility will be limited by respective software and hardware limitations, anyway. * Section 4.5 This sentence is long and complex, and the exact point it is trying to make is not clear. Can you simplify/reword? For example: while the deployment of a network solely composed of OpenFlow switches within a data center environment is unlikely to raise FIB scalability issues given the current state-of-the-art, data center networking that relies upon complex, possibly IP-based, QoS- inferred, interconnect design schemes meant to dynamically manage the mobility of Virtual Machines between sites is certainly of another scale. * Section 4.6 Can you clarify what risk is being assessed here? o Assessing whether SDN-labeled solutions are likely to obsolete existing technologies because of hardware limitations. Editorial ========= * Section 3.3 s/policiy/policy/ Thanks Suresh