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TELECOM Digest     Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:00 EDT    Volume 24 : Issue 254

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Seattle Tops List of Wireless Web Communities (Lisa Minter)
    Bellsouth to Launch Wireless Broadband Service (Lisa Minter)
    China to Close Unregistered Web Sites (Lisa Minter)
    BenQ Gets Control of Siemens' Mobile Phone Unit (Telecom dailyLead USTA)
    QuickTime 7 for Windows Public Preview (Monty Solomon)
    Coal, was: From our Archives: History of Standard Oil/Bell (D Burstein)
    Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy (NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info)
    Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy  (Gary Novosielski)
    Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites (Gary Novosielski)
    Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging? (John R. Levine)
    Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging? (pieterek@spamcop.net)
    Re: Wrong Time Shown in Vonage Caller ID (DevilsPGD)
    Re: From our Archives: History of Standard Oil/Bell (Justin Time)

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Seattle Tops List of Wireless Web Communities
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:11:12 -0500


Maybe it's the rain that encouraged Seattle's residents to stay
indoors, sipping their lattes and surfing the Web wirelessly, that
made the northwest city this year's most 'unwired' city, according to
a survey released on Tuesday.

The study, sponsored by Intel Corp., showed that Seattle had more
places for its residents to connect to the Internet via wireless, or
Wi-Fi, hot spots than any other U.S. city.

Coffee-sipping laptop users are a common sight in Seattle, Washington,
the birthplace of Starbucks Corp. that also has software giant
Microsoft Corp. in the nearby suburb of Redmond.

Second on the list was San Francisco's metropolitan area, followed by
Austin, Texas. Fourth was another northwestern city, Portland, Oregon,
and fifth was Toledo, Ohio.

The survey for 2005's "Most Unwired Cities" was based on the number of
access points at commercial, public, airport, and other locations
among the top 100 metropolitan areas in the United States.

Following is a complete list of the top ten unwired places in the
United States:

1. Seattle, Washington
2. San Francisco-San Jose-Oakland, California
3. Austin, Texas
4. Portland, Oregon-Vancouver, Washington
5. Toledo, Ohio
6. Atlanta, Georgia
7. Denver, Colorado
8. Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina
9. Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota
10. Orange County, California

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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bellsouth to Launch Wireless Broadband Service
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:12:25 -0500


BellSouth Corp., the No. 3 U.S. local telephone company, said on
Tuesday it would launch a wireless high-speed Internet service for
residential customers based on an early version of the WiMax
technology backed by Intel Corp. 

BellSouth and other telecommunications companies have been testing
WiMax as a cheaper alternative for connecting hard-to-reach customers
or replacing more expensive wired data links.

BellSouth said it would offer the service starting in August in
Athens, Georgia, and would expand to several cities in Florida later
this year.

The company did not release details on prices or data speeds for the
service.

Intel, the world's largest chip maker, is pushing WiMax as a way to
spread cheap yet ubiquitous wireless broadband access, as well as a
future driver of chips and notebook computer sales.

With Intel's muscle behind the WiMax push, some 240 companies have
joined the industry group developing standards and equipment.

Certified WiMax equipment has yet to go on sale, but several companies
sell "pre-WiMax" gear based on early versions of the
standards. BellSouth said its service would use equipment from
privately-owned Navini Networks.


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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: China to Close Unregistered Web Sites 
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:14:10 -0500


China is to close unregistered China-based domestic Web sites and
blogs, a media watchdog said, as the government tightens its grip on
the Internet.

Popular domestic Web portals are already pressured not to publish
sensitive news and voluntarily patrol chatrooms and other areas of
their sites for "politically incorrect" or "unapproved" statements and
delete them. Beijing announced in March that every China-based Web
site now had to register and provide complete information on its
organizers by June 30 or face being declared illegal, the Paris-based
Reporters Without Borders group said in a statement seen on Tuesday.

"The plan is all the more worrying as the government has also revealed
that it has a new system for monitoring sites in real time and
spotting those that fail to comply," Reporters Without Borders said.

"This decision will enable those in power to control online news and
information much more effectively."

Around three-quarters of domestic Web sites had complied with the
registration orders, Reporters Without Borders quoted official Chinese
figures as saying.

A report released by the OpenNet Initiative in April called China the
world's leading censor of the Internet and said the government
employed thousands of officials and private citizens to monitor and
control online content.

But for all of Beijing's efforts to rein in the medium, pockets of
free speech have appeared in Internet chatrooms and blogs.

"The authorities also hope to push the most outspoken online sites to
migrate abroad, where they will become inaccessible to those inside
China because of the Chinese filtering systems," Reporters Without
Borders said.

Beijing regularly blocks access to some foreign Web pages, including
sites run by Chinese dissidents living in exile abroad.

China is the world's second-largest Internet market, with about 100
million users and the number is growing.

It is also the world's largest jailer of cyber dissidents, having
detained more than 60 people for expressing their views online,
according to a Reporters Without Borders report from last June.


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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Although this will not happen anytime
soon, I think we can expect to see the United States begin to clamp
down on 'unapproved' and 'unregistered' web sites in the future. It
is just a matter of time until the government gets a belly-full of
the spam/scam/porn-ridden internet and decides to crack down hard. I
mean, the s/s/p ridden internet is not an exception to the rule; it
_is_ the rule and has been for a few years now. Watch and see ... at
some point the little porky pig character will step out on the stage
and say 'thats it, folks'.   PAT]

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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:59:23 EDT
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Subject: BenQ Gets Control of Siemens' Mobile Phone Unit


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:20:46 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: QuickTime 7 for Windows Public Preview


QuickTime 7 for Windows Public Preview
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/preview/

Welcome to QuickTime 7, the latest version of the world's most
advanced digital media technology. Download the public preview to get
a first look at the exciting new features in QuickTime 7 for Windows.

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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Coal, was From our Archives: History of Standard Oil and Bell
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:19:47 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom24.253.8@telecom-digest.org> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:

> In some cities, coal was used for school building heater much later
> than normal (oil had taken over).  I believe pressure from the coal
> miners forced the city to stick with coal.  I wonder if they still use
> coal or since converted.

A hefty number of NYC public schools used coal until about five years
ago, so you'll probably still see lots of references to them.

Actually, for a school, with a fairly large and high pressure boiler
system, and with professionally licensed/trained operators [a], coal
is not too bad an idea. Provided, of course, that you're using modern
equipment.

	[a] for the most part, high prssure boiler operators
	in NYC are pretty competent. Yes, there's the periodic
	news clip about the usual kickbacks and licensing games
	common in any gov't agency, but most of the folk involved
	take this stuff seriously.

The problem in NYC was that these were _ancient_ boiler systems. Some
had _manual_ stokers (aka "firemen") who shoveled the coal in. And
there was not even a hint of combustion control or pollution
reduction.

(And these firemen, unlike the ones on diesel trains, were actually 
working hard for their money...).

As part of the deal in selling the public on an environmental bond issue, 
the city and state promised to replace all the coal boilers with either 
natural gas or oil. And, amazingly enough, they did it pretty close to 
schedule. Last time I looked some of them still had "temporary" 
trailer-mounted boilers on the sidewalk, but those were the exception.

Personally I think we'd have been better off upgrading the coal systems
and, for that matter, placing baseload electrical generators in the 
schools as well, but no one asked me. NYC's local oil distribution was 
pretty maxed out a few years ago, and that modest demand increase by the 
schools had a pretty large impact on fuel prices.

And, if you want to see what General Electric is thinking about coal,
check out their very, err, unique advert. I've put a QuickTime version
of it up at:

 	   http://www.panix.com/~dannyb/video/16-tons-cdr.mov

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'd personally like to see more wide-
spread research/development/use of solar power, especially for things
like heating our homes in the winter. Oops, I forgot to include the
mantra from the petroleum industry on this: "Solar power is not
practical nor efficient."  PAT]

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From: NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info
Subject: Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy
Date: 6 Jun 2005 18:11:29 -0700


Steve Sobol wrote:

> Steven Lichter wrote:

>> I have seen both, more from the mailing though.

> Thanks for the feedback. I wish GoDaddy didn't sell bulk email
> services at all. :-/ Time to go rattle some cages.
> Nalick, "Breathe"

Go to GoDaddy.com on Wednesday evening,
they set up a chat room to go along with their streaming radio show.

You can even call up an 800 number to get on "air" I think.

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From: Gary Novosielski <gpn@suespammers.org>
Subject: Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy 
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:27:55 GMT


Steve Sobol wrote:

> But the question is ... are you seeing emails coming from GoDaddy
> customers using their mailing list product? Or are you just seeing
> lots of spam from GoDaddy-registered domains? Both are bad. I'd argue
> that the former is a lot worse.

Since GoDaddy is a fast-growing registrar, it's likely that a lot of
mail, even mail with forged From: addresses, may come from a GoDaddy
 -registered domain.  But registrars can't be expected to filter
prospective registrants to remove potential, or even actual, spammers.

All a registrar does is point a domain name to a name server.  It has
no part in transmitting the message, nor any idea what's in it.  It's
the Internet service provider or web hosting company that should field
complaints and terminate the service of spammers.

Since GoDaddy also does hosting, it's possible they might be on the
hook for this, but I had the impression that the original complaint
was that some domain in the e-mail headers was had been registered
through GoDaddy, as confirmed by a whois search.  If that's all it is,
then it's not really a fair gripe.

But I've re-read the messages and still can't tell for sure exactly
how GoDaddy is accused of being involved.  Come to think of it, I
can't recall ever before seeing a complaint that tried to take a
domain name registrar to task for the actions of the owners of the
domains.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would like to ask you just one
question: _Why_ can't a registrar be expected to screen potential or
actual spammers?  If registrars started doing that, they'd be heros
in the eyes of most netters.  PAT]

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From: Gary Novosielski <gpn@suespammers.org>
Subject: Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:29:34 GMT


Fred Atkinson wrote:

> Sorry to come down on you this hard, but limiting student access to
> information simply because we think they don't 'need' access to it is
> a pretty short sighted opinion for an educator to take.

You're presuming that it's educators who are in favor of blocking
technology, but I think that's jumping to an unsupported conclusion.

Educators and, to an even greater extent, librarians are mostly
opposed to arbitrary blocking software and other automated solutions
to this "problem".  But the religious fundamentalists now in control
of the federal government have forced local schools to install
blocking software, ignoring all the facts and figures (and plain old
first-hand experience) that show it's useless, just so they can say
they're "protecting the children".

Sometimes, local school boards will get pressure to "do something"
from parent groups who have been panicked by some sensationalized
story in the press about child molesters and porno pushers on the Net.
Blocking access lets them say they've acted to solve the "problem",
which is a whole lot easier than educating parents on the real dangers
and the remedies that really work.

As a result, students who try to do a report on breast cancer will
usually be unable to access any information on the subject because
"breast" is on the list of evil keywords.

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites
Date: 7 Jun 2005 09:07:12 -0700


Robert Bonomi wrote:

>> Sorry, but I know too many government agencies that have strict rules
>> on what their employees may say using any government equipment, and
>> AFAIK these rules are perfectly legal and upheld.

> Generally, true, *today*.  There is a _long_ history of attempts at
> such rules that have been held partially or wholly void, necessitating
> re-writes.

Until around 1975 government employees were under many restrictions.
There was a law, the Hatch Act, that prohibited politicking by
government employees.  That made sense in the idea it was to avoid
government employees serving as patronage or beholden to elected
officials for their jobs.  Until that time Federal employees had to
sign off that they weren't Communists.  They didn't even want to see
bumper stickers on cars in employee parking lots.  They wanted the
appearance of strict neutrality.

The laws today are different.  There certainly does remain some
restrictions within the workplace.

> Government-as-employer is a _very_ complex legal situation. There is a
> difficult balancing act between exercise of 'rights' _as_employer_ and
> infringing on the 'civil rights' of the employee.

ALL employers face many regulations.  That is one of the motivations
for established companies to dump long-time employees and go to
outsourcing or contract workers.

> The body of law regarding what is allowable/acceptable in a government
> work-place is significantly different that what is allowable/
> acceptable in a private employer's workplace.

There is substantial variety among government employers and private
employers.  But I am not aware of "significant" differences between
public and private as to day-to-day workplace activity.  (There may be
differences in hiring and firing procedures on account of civil
service, but some unionized private companies aren't very different in
that regard.

>> Sorry, but rules do exist prohibiting "specific things" in government
>> and in schools.

> Would you care to itemize the 'saying specific things' forbidden by
> those rules?

Among other things:

1) No pornography.
2) Illegal pornography will be turned over to the police.
3) No harassment (per sexual harassment standards).
4) No non-work related material (doesn't apply in the library).
5) No release of private or restricted information.
6) Compliance with policy on inter-dept communications (doesn't
apply in the library).
7) Compliance with various technical rules to protect system
integrity.

> That aside, Because something _is_ publicly funded, and made available
> to the public, 'at large', *does* mean that there are restrictions and
> limitations that the government can exercise over what 'the public'
> can do on/with that 'something'.

There are restrictions on EVERYTHING in this world.  A building has to
comply with zoning and fire codes.  A private building open to the
public (ie a store or restaurant) must comply with further
regulations.

None the less, within the law, owners of property, BOTH government or
private, may enact their own rules of conduct and procedure within
their properties.  Years ago (before the laws), a governmentn director
banned smoking in his dept, for example.  Certain attire may be
required, for example.

Indeed, in some cases government employees have more restrictions than
private employees, such as poll workers and cops showing neutrality
while on duty during an election.

> Which has nothing to do with 'free speech', in point of fact.  The
> summons is for _how_ you did things, not _what_ you said.

It has EVERYTHING to do with what is SAID.  If I threaten to kill you,
you can have me arrested and convicted for making threats.  Other
statements can result in conviction for disorderly conduct or
harassment.  If I libel or slander you, you can sue me for damages.

> Regulating/restricting the _content_ of speech has very high barriers
> to overcome.
> Regulating/restricting the _form_ of speech faces far, _far_ lower
> barriers.

The barriers are not as high as you think.

Further, many argue (I don't quite agree) that regulating the form of
speech effectively limits the content of speech.  For instance, some
demand that free speech be allowed in shopping malls (which are
private property) because the malls are the "new Main Street".  Courts
have been mixed on that.  Many advocates argue that standing on a
corner handing out leaflets (a very classic form of free speech) has
so little impact that they should be allowed stronger forms of speech.

>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is also important to remember the
>> difference between someone who is _governed by the government_ versus
>> someone who is _employed by the government_ (except as the government
>> employee happens to coincidentally also be a citizen).  ...
>> administrative convenience is given much weight in the courts.

Pat's position is 100% correct and a good view of it.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is to Lisa Hancock regards the
> school choir denied the right to sing their songs even as an after
> school volunteer activity. The same thing happened several years ago
> in Chicago, compliments of the boneheads at the ACLU. So the kids at
> the school got even, with help from their choirmaster and the parents.
> Their after school activity withdrew _any and all_ affiliation with
> the public schools. They made it plain in their concert programs that
> they were _NOT_ affiliated in any way with the Chicago Public Schools.
> They further noted in their concert programs that their choirmaster
> and musicians were employed _by the choir_, and not by the Chicago
> Public Schools. "Although most members of our choir are in fact
> students in the Chicago Public Schools, and occassionally it is
> convenient for the choir to rent an auditorium facility from the
> Chicago Public Schools to give performances, we have absolutely no
> connection with the Chicago Public Schools." They gave programs of
> choral music by Bach, Handel and Mozart. _Tough stuff_ and always
> excellently done. Of course, much of it made reference to God or
> (in the case of some of Handel's oratorios), passages of scripture.
> Stuff that almost caused me to faint, it was that well done. And
> when asked why they were not affiliated with one of the schools, the
> choirmaster would always say afterward, _now_ do you see why we have
> no affiliation with the Chicago Public Schools? We would not be
> allowed to do what we want to do. We do not sing and play for the
> lowest common denominator, which is what would be expected of us,
> and all we would be allowed. A couple of the school system's
> principals, who were still a bit sensitive to when the choir and
> their choirmaster had 'pulled out of school' responded by saying,
> "Well, you don't have to be so snotty about it!" ... but the
> choirmaster's response was that just because the schools would only
> allow very bland and generic 'jingle bells' songs at Christmas did
> not mean _they_ had to, or intended to settle for that.   PAT]

I agree -- this shows that sometimes restricting religion is
actually restricting free speech and art and culture.  A heck
of a lot of classic art and music was religious oriented.

The Philadelphia schools had an open access policy for after school
activities.  The choir happened to be school students and led by a
school employee (on her own time) but they did African American gospel
singing.  They claimed it was cultural.  They claimed that since no
school money was involved and the school had an open policy their
choir should be allowed.  The courts ruled against it as being
religion practiced in schools.  I don't think anybody in the school
objected, rather it was external ACLU types who brought a lawsuit.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Did the court actually put the choir
out of business? It sounds to me like it did. Did the choir try going
the 'free association' direction as the one did in Chicago? That is to
say, pick up their music and other belongings (and since it was after
school hours) simply skip the premises to do their thing? The ACLU
would have probably had a hissy fit if they had done that, or tried to
do it. And you see, the 'joke', if you want to call it that, flies
back squarely into the faces of the ACLU types. I thought almost
_everyone_ knew that a _huge_ amount of the world's greatest classical
music and its composers, Bach, Mendelssohn, Handel, Mozart, others,
based much of their work on religious themes. And other than the Bible
 -- the first place winner for much classical music -- who comes in
second place? None other than William Shakespeare, i.e. 'Romeo and
Juliet' and others from Felix Mendelssohn for example. 'tis a real
shame the ACLU has to act so puritanical so much of the time. PAT]

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From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging?
Date: 6 Jun 2005 23:10:10 -0400
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> Maybe it has to do with the way GSM works.  You didn't mention AT&T
> Wireless or Cingular.

Cingular has turned off all SMS on my GSM phone other than their own
(free) network messages.  They said it was the only way to prevent
getting postage-due premium SMS spam from sms.ac.

I checked, it's really off, SMS sent either from other phones or from
email vanishes.

R's,

John

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Date: Mon,  6 Jun 2005 19:58:29 -0500
From: pieterek@spamcop.net
Subject: Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging?


Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>> John Mayson wrote:

>> My wife and I switched to T-Mobile this week.  With our particular
>> plan all incoming text messages are charged at 5 cents per message.  I
>> receive about a $1 worth of spam per day.  I called T-Mobile, but they
>> won't even acknowledge my account exists because I'm not the "primary
>> account holder" as my wife actually bought the phones.  She's been
>> sort of busy and hasn't called them herself.

I don't know whether or not T-Mobile can/will disable SMS, but I am a
TM subscriber. They are pretty strict about security as far as my
dealings with them. When you dial customer care from your mobile, you
are asked for your number, area code first, and last 4 digits of the
primary account holder's SSN. They did not used to ask for that.

When you reach a rep, they ask you to verify name and address and
usually (but not always) ask you for your account's password. (I am
not making this up; I have always had a password on my T-M account as
well, which you can also use on their website).

<snip>

> TM should be no different. It's an account security issue; you DO NOT
> want just anyone to be able to call in about your account.

I'm with Steve; you do not want just anyone to be calling and messing
up your accounts! However, I fail to see how you are getting so much
SMS spam (spim?).  I have only gotten 2 since I have been with
VoiceStream, now T-Mobile ... my SIM card is so old, it still says
VStream when I turn my phone on.

Maybe you should demand a new number -- the person who had the phone
number before you may be the party causing your grief ...

Good luck,

Claire

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From: DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Wrong Time Shown in Vonage Caller ID
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:03:27 -0600
Organization: Disorganized


In message <telecom24.251.2@telecom-digest.org> Chris Farrar
<cfarrar@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I have a Vonage (Canada) VoIP number and I'm wondering if anyone else
> is experiencing this problem.

> I'm using an Aastra 392 (aka a Nortel Vista 392 screen phone) 2 line
> phone.  Line one is on Bell Canada in the 905-282-XXXX exchange.  Line
> 2 is Vonage Canada through the Linksys PSP2 adapter in the 416-628-XXXX
> exchange.

> The problem is that the phone with reset the display clock to conform
> with the last Caller ID information available.  Bell Canada is sending
> the correct time (Eastern Daylight Time) on inbound calls, but Vonage
> is sending Eastern Standard Time.  So whenever I receive a call on
> Vonage, my screen phone resets itself to EST, when we are currently in
> EDT, and the clock is then 1 hour slow until the next call comes in on
> Bell Canada to put it back into EDT.

> Theoretically this problem will disappear when we go back to EST in
> the fall, but is there a way to get Vonage to update their clock
> before then?

First, go to your web interface, change the timezone, reset your ATA,
see if it changes your CID.  If so, change it back and see if you're
good to go.

If that doesn't help, email Vonage, wait 4 months, receive a response
that says "Yes CID is supported", then reply back and explain the
issue again and they'll fix it.

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From: Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: From our Archives: History of Standard Oil and Bell System
Date: 7 Jun 2005 05:53:24 -0700


The AMOCO label has been gone from the Chicago area for several years.

They're all BP now.

And every time I see a BP station I think back to Dick Martin and "You
bet your bippee!"

Rodgers Platt

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