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TELECOM Digest Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:30:00 EDT Volume 24 : Issue 368 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Cyber Spying", Ted Fair/Michael Nordfelt/Sandra Ring (Slade) Agilent Sells Chip Business (USTelecom dailyLead) T-Mobile USA Reports Second Quarter 2005 Results (Monty Solomon) TiVo Launches Video Download Trial With IFC (Monty Solomon) Re: Stock Market Ticker Tape Machines? (Reed) Re: How Long Can a Telephone Extension Cord Be? (Rich Greenberg) Re: How Long Can a Telephone Extension Cord Be? (DevilsPGD) Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s? (Carl Navarro) Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s (Michael Muderick) Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s? (Robert Bonomi) Re: Appeals Court Ruling Revives Case of Intercepted E-Mail (Robert Bonomi) Re: Start-Up Slashes Cost of International Wireless (jared) Re: Stock Market Ticker Tape Machines? (Reed) Re: Daylight-Saving Switch May Cause Tech Woes (DevilsPGD) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Slade <rslade@sprint.com> Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:45:20 -0800 Subject: Book Review: "Cyber Spying", Ted Fair/Michael Nordfelt/Sandra Ring Reply-To: rslade@sprint.ca BKCBRSPY.RVW 20050614 "Cyber Spying", Ted Fair/Michael Nordfelt/Sandra Ring, 2005, 1-931836-41-8, U$39.95/C$57.95 %A Ted Fair %A Michael Nordfelt %A Sandra Ring %C 800 Hingham Street, Rockland, MA 02370 %D 2005 %G 1-931836-41-8 %I Syngress Media, Inc. %O U$39.95/C$57.95 781-681-5151 fax: 781-681-3585 www.syngress.com %O http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931836418/robsladesinterne http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931836418/robsladesinte-21 %O http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931836418/robsladesin03-20 %O Audience n- Tech 1 Writing 1 (see revfaq.htm for explanation) %P 439 p. %T "Cyber Spying" Chapter one seems to be a search for grounds to justify spying on your family. The reasons seem to boil down to a) everybody likes to snoop, b) you should spy on your spouse (because everybody likes sex), and c) it's always OK to spy on your kids (you're just looking out for them, after all). (Somehow it is easy to believe that the authors all met at the CIA.) We are supposed to learn about the basics of spying, in chapter two, but instead get vague advice on planning, plus hypothetical stories. A kind of terse review of the parts of computers is in chapter three: chapter four provides slightly more usable information about network operations. Chapter five starts out with an extremely simplistic set of instructions for navigating around your computer (if I am going to get spied on, maybe I *do* want it to be these guys), moves into a list of recommended utilities, and also discusses some issues that don't seem to fit the level of the other material at all. (If you don't know how to run Windows Explorer, how are you going to know the difference between an Ethernet hub and an Ethernet switch?) Areas to obtain data from a computer are listed in chapter six. Oddly, there is much "low hanging fruit" that is not mentioned, while a number of the items suggested can be defeated quite easily. Web browsing, in chapter seven, repeats a great deal of material from five and six. Email, in chapter eight, also reiterates a lot of earlier content. Instant messaging and clients are discussed in chapter nine. Chapter ten reviews other spying techniques and more advanced computer technologies. Some elementary means to make spying more difficult are mentioned in chapter twelve. Once again, the lack of a stated audience makes it very difficult to assess whether this book does its job. It certainly isn't for professionals: neither security nor law enforcement people will get much out of this work. For people who want to spy on their spouses or significant others, well, I have no sympathy if they waste their money that way. If parents are planning to spy on children, I would suggest that there are other, better, means of protecting your kids online, and if you really need to know the content that is provided in this text, then your kids are probably going to be able to get around you anyway. For the tin-foil hat crowd, you may be comforted to find that CIA staff can't do any better than this. (On the other hand, maybe it's a conspiracy to make us all *think* that the CIA is that dumb ...) copyright Robert M. Slade, 2005 BKCBRSPY.RVW 20050614 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@sun.soci.niu.edu Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life. - Immanuel Kant http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev or http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:04:58 EDT From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com> Subject: Agilent Sells Chip Business USTelecom dailyLead August 15, 2005 http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=23846&l=2017006 TODAY'S HEADLINES NEWS OF THE DAY * Agilent sells chip business BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH * Sprint-Nextel deal finalized * VoIP growth: Behind the numbers * MVNO launches service for Spanish speakers * A nationwide Google Wi-Fi net? USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT * Telecom Crash Course -- The must-have book for telecom professionals HOT TOPICS * Report: Cisco mulls offer for Nokia * Birch files Chapter 11 * BellSouth: IPTV's coming in 2006 * Rural carriers have option under new DSL rules * Huawei considers Marconi bid EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES * Motorola readies for WiMAX REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE * MCI could cost Verizon less than expected Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others. http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=23846&l=2017006 Legal and Privacy information at http://www.dailylead.com/about/privacy_legal.jsp SmartBrief, Inc. 1100 H ST NW, Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:23:22 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: T-Mobile USA Reports Second Quarter 2005 Results BELLEVUE, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 11, 2005--T-Mobile USA, Inc. (NYSE:DT): -- 972,000 net new customers added in Q2 2005 - total customer base of 19.2 million -- $1.08 billion in Operating Income Before Depreciation and Amortization (OIBDA) in Q2 2005 -- Tied for best call quality performance in Northeast and Southeast regions in the JD Power and Associates 2005 Wireless Call Quality Performance Study -- Over 1,000 new cell sites on air in Q2 2005 - almost 31,000 cell sites on air in total -- Q2 2005 net income of $387 million, up more than 60% from Q2 2004 T-Mobile USA, Inc. ("T-Mobile USA"), the U.S. operation of T-Mobile International AG & Co. KG ("T-Mobile International"), the mobile communications subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG ("Deutsche Telekom") (NYSE:DT), today announced second quarter 2005 results. In order to provide comparability with the results of other U.S. wireless carriers all financial amounts are in USD and are based on accounting principles generally accepted in the United States ("GAAP"). T-Mobile USA results are included in the consolidated results of Deutsche Telekom, but differ from the information contained herein as Deutsche Telekom reports financial results in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS). In the second quarter of 2005, T-Mobile USA added 972,000 net new customers, compared with 957,000 added in the first quarter of 2005 and 1,092,000 in the second quarter of 2004. Approximately 70% of the growth in the second quarter of 2005 came from new postpay customers, which currently comprise over 87% of the total customer base. Approximately 30% of the growth came from new prepaid customers, reflecting the successful rebranding of T-Mobile USA's prepaid service into "T-Mobile To Go" combined with a more attractive prepaid offering. - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=51076753 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:35:05 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: TiVo Launches Video Download Trial With IFC IFC to Make Its First-Ever Scripted Series Available for Download by TiVo(R) Series2 Subscribers ALVISO, Calif., Aug. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc. (Nasdaq: TIVO), the creator of and a leader in television services for digital video recorders (DVR), announced today the launch of a video download trial in conjunction with Independent Film Channel (IFC), enabling select TiVo subscribers to download IFC programming over broadband to their TiVo Series2(TM) DVR. The only television services provider for DVRs to seamlessly integrate broadband video downloads and telecast content, TiVo is using this new functionality to begin a series of broadband features that will be deployed to TiVo Series2 users beginning this fall. The availability of the IFC programming will be promoted to trial participants through a TiVo Showcase. Once a TiVo subscriber chooses to receive the IFC programming, the shows are downloaded via a broadband connection. During the trial, IFC will make its first-ever scripted series, "Hopeless Pictures", "Greg The Bunny", and "The Festival" -- which will premiere August 19 -- available for download by TiVo subscribers in advance of their network telecast premiere. In addition to offering the full episodes of each series, IFC will package exclusive content, including outtakes and other unaired footage, for TiVo subscribers. - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=51148748 ------------------------------ From: Reed <reedh@rmi.net> Organization: None Whatsoever Subject: Re: Stock Market Ticker Tape Machines? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 03:35:41 GMT Jim Haynes wrote: >> In article <telecom24.364.8@telecom-digest.org>, >> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >>> I was wondering what kind of machine, if any, replaced the classic >>> glass-dome model and continued to produce a tape showing trades. > (Guess I missed the original message, or I would have replied.) > The glass-bell-jar ticker was replaced ca. 1930 by a machine made by > Teletype. It used a six-level start-stop code and printed using a > type wheel. I would have to look this up, but think the speed was 600 > letters per minute, which works out to 100 wpm. The glass bell jar > tickers continued to be used by Western Union to report baseball > scores as late as circa 1950. Sports score reporting was a service of > W.U.; the customers for the service were mostly bookies and other > gamblers. > W.U. made some tape printers for telegrams using the basic mechanism > of the 1930 ticker; this was called the 401-A printer. Teletype made > a low-cost page printer in the late 1930s using much of the same > technology; this was the Model 26. The ticker had no model number. > Those tickers where replaced circa 1965 by a new Teletype ticker > operating at 900 chars/min and often called the "900" ticker for that > reason. It used technology under development for the Model 37 page > printer; but within the Bell System it was called the Model 28 ticker > even though it had little in common with the Model 28 equipment line. > I guess they wanted to reserve Model 37 for the new page printer. The > 900 ticker used the same 6-level code as the earlier ticker. > This ticker could be considered the last successful Teletype product > of the almost-all-mechanical genre. The Model 37 and Model 38 page > printers achieved few sales and never got completely debugged. > Everything after that used a lot of electronics instead of complicated > mechanisms. > jhhaynes at earthlink dot net Check some pictures of these at http://claussstudios.bizland.com/realticker2.chtml --reed ------------------------------ From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) Subject: Re: How Long Can a Telephone Extension Cord Be? Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:51:01 UTC Organization: Organized? Me? In article <telecom24.367.16@telecom-digest.org>, Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com> wrote: > Several years ago when or Verizon phone line failed (amazing, but it > does happen), the tech ran a cable from the nearby riser across our > lawn through the backyard into our house, must have been a hundred > feet or more, while they waited to retrench the new cable. Now that > there's fiber in the neighborhood, I guess they'll retrench a new > fiber cable if we order FIOS. Twice both of my phone lines went dead. Each time the problem was "backhoe fade", or in these cases actually "shovel fade" The local cable company whose pedastal was only inches from the telco pedastal cut my line while working on my next door neighbor's cable connection. The first time, the telco guy spliced it with a jelly filled splice case. The second time they decided to replace the underground drop wire, and rerouted it away from the cable pedastal. No problem since. Rich Greenberg Marietta, GA, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 770 321 6507 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red & Shasta (RIP),Red, husky Owner:Chinook-L Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/ Asst Owner:Sibernet-L ------------------------------ From: DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> Subject: Re: How Long Can a Telephone Extension Cord Be? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:09:59 -0600 Organization: Disorganized In message <telecom24.367.16@telecom-digest.org> Michael Quinn <quinnm@bah.com> wrote: > Several years ago when or Verizon phone line failed (amazing, but it > does happen), the tech ran a cable from the nearby riser across our > lawn through the backyard into our house, must have been a hundred > feet or more, while they waited to retrench the new cable. Now that > there's fiber in the neighborhood, I guess they'll retrench a new > fiber cable if we order FIOS. Chances are Verizon would have used twisted pair, which is the same stuff they put in underground everywhere. It's also the same stuff that goes miles underground. ------------------------------ From: Carl Navarro <cnavarro@wcnet.org> Subject: Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s? Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:56:04 GMT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com On 13 Aug 2005 18:30:30 -0700, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > Back in the 1970s, a standard fixture in almost every business (and > even in some wealthy homes) was a key telephone. This has six buttons > along the time so that the phone could handle more than one outside > line, intercom lines, and HOLD function. I was wondering what basic > key systems cost in the 1970-1975 time frame. Since the stuff was regulated in that time frame it might be hard to tell. You rented it and paid whatever the phone company wanted you to. In 1985, I paid: 6-button set 65.79 10-button set 93.29 20-button set 195.53 Line cards were about $20.00 without MOH option and KSU's about $340 for a 512 (12 or 13 slots in an empty huge cabinet), and the intercoms started at $100 for a 9 or 10 station Valcom with $1.40 for low voltage and $4.00 for high voltage buzzers. We used ITT 601 KSU's, one of which is still in my warehouse. It runs to mind that it was about a couple of hundred. Now, to give you a comparison, the new-fangled Comdial Executech system was about $720 for a 616 KSU (IIRC they were 2 for 1 in a promo), and the phones were about $150-190 each. > From what I saw, the pricing was a la carte--every little feature was > a charge. One large organization did not bother with line lamps to > save money. The "wink-hold" feature, where the line lamp blinked > slowly when the line was on-hold, was optional. I never saw a system > without a HOLD button, but apparently even that was optional. (I > believe later systems, such as ComKey had package prices). > Anyway, would anyone know what typical pricing was in the 1970-1975 > time frame, for the following: >- "Hunting" feature so busy calls would go to the next line. Still in the $2-4 range per line. > - Two lines, two keysets, line lamps that would blink on ring, but not > wink-hold. > - Wink-hold feature. > - Basic manual intercom (push-button to sound buzzer). Sometimes there > was a SIG button on the phone, sometimes there was a tiny panel with > pushbuttons mounted next to the phone. In the '80's, the unit was about $25 for a 401 common battery card. You hand modified(took out the screw) the last button and added buzzers. > - Dial intercom, one common channel, one digit automatically sounded > desired buzzer. > - Other features of the six button keyset? Whatever you wanted, you added them ... if they would fit in the set. We even put Demon dialers on later 1A2 sets. > - If a residence had a key system was the cost cheaper than a business? Probably not, just the lines were less. Carl Navarro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:01:08 -0400 From: Michael Muderick <michael.muderick@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s I don't know the cost of all the features, but they were a la carte. However the hunting feature was done at the CO and there was no charge for that as far back as I can remember. Remember, it meant another completed call for Ma Bell, rather than a busy signal, so it was to their advantage to give hunting away free, lest someone decide to opt out of it. mm ------------------------------ From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: Classic Six-Button Keysets - Cost During 1970s? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:31:13 -0000 Organization: Widgets, Inc. In article <telecom24.367.8@telecom-digest.org>, <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > Back in the 1970s, a standard fixture in almost every business (and > even in some wealthy homes) was a key telephone. This has six buttons > along the time so that the phone could handle more than one outside > line, intercom lines, and HOLD function. I was wondering what basic > key systems cost in the 1970-1975 time frame. Commonly known as a "1A2" system. > From what I saw, the pricing was a la carte--every little feature was > a charge. One large organization did not bother with line lamps to > save money. The "wink-hold" feature, where the line lamp blinked > slowly when the line was on-hold, was optional. I never saw a system > without a HOLD button, but apparently even that was optional. (I > believe later systems, such as ComKey had package prices). The button itself, and the mechanical actions related there were universal. whether the back-end equipment recognized 'hold' and kept the circuit busy was the 'optional' part. Took some additional cards in the card cage. > Anyway, would anyone know what typical pricing was in the 1970-1975 > time frame, for the following: > - "Hunting" feature so busy calls would go to the next line. Handled entirely in the C.O. nothing in the 1A2 had anything to do with it. (the CPE was irrelevant, unless you had 'trunk' circuits into a true PBX.) > - Two lines, two keysets, line lamps that would blink on ring, but not > wink-hold. > - Wink-hold feature. > - Basic manual intercom (push-button to sound buzzer). Sometimes there > was a SIG button on the phone, sometimes there was a tiny panel with > pushbuttons mounted next to the phone. > - Dial intercom, one common channel, one digit automatically sounded > desired buzzer. > - Other features of the six button keyset? > - If a residence had a key system was the cost cheaper than a business? > Around the 1960s the Bell System came out with a fancier system known > as the "Call Director". Did this have any advanced features or did it > just offer more line buttons? I know the basic Call Director shell > was used as a PBX operator's console, but that was a different phone > and included an additional lamp for supervision. One of the big features of the call director was idiot lights that showed the on/off hook status of multiple extensions. A limited number on the phone itself (10? 15?) plus expansion sections with additional 25(?) lines/indicators. I don't know what equipment was behind it -- had to be considerably more than just a 1A2 chassis, probably Centrex -- but all the call directors I ever saw had the capability to do a two/three button 'transfer' of an incoming call, to a specified extension. > Six button keysets are rare to see today, having been replaced by more > modern systems. Even the Bell System, before divesture, had developed > several new lines, such as ComKey and phones with more buttons > (identified by a larger square button with the light within it. Both > wall and desk sets had a long row of buttons along the top of the > phone. These were out early enough that they were made in rotary dial > as well as touch tone. ------------------------------ From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: Appeals Court Ruling Revives Case of Intercepted E-Mail Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:08:07 -0000 Organization: Widgets, Inc. In article <telecom24.367.13@telecom-digest.org>, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com> wrote: > In article <telecom24.366.12@telecom-digest.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> In article <telecom24.365.3@telecom-digest.org>, Monty Solomon >> <monty@roscom.com> wrote: >>> Bradford Councilman is former vice president of Interloc Inc., a rare >>> book dealer in Greenfield that offered a free e-mail service to >>> customers. In 1998, Councilman allegedly began intercepting any >>> e-mails sent to his customers by the Internet retailer Amazon.com. >>> Councilman and his colleagues allegedly read the messages to see what >>> Amazon was offering his customers, so that he could make attractive >>> counter-offers. >>> A grand jury indicted Councilman in 2001 for violating the federal >>> wiretapping law. Councilman urged dismissal of the indictment, saying >>> that the wiretap law did not apply because the e-mail was intercepted >>> while it was stored in the memory of a computer, not when it was >>> traveling across a network. >>> A federal district court agreed and threw out the indictment. The US >>> Justice Department, which had brought the case against Councilman, >>> appealed the ruling. But a three-judge panel of the US Court of >>> Appeals in Boston also rejected the charges. Last year, the Justice >>> Department persuaded all seven appeals court judges to hear the case. >> It seems to me that they're using the wrong law. Doesn't the >> Electronic Communications Privacy Act have provisions prohibiting >> email providers from looking at customers' mail, except as needed to >> provide the service (e.g. server administrators sometimes have to look >> at mail to diagnose problems)? Why are they using the a wiretapping >> statute, when he didn't actually intercept anything on the wire? > Maybe because the "unlawful access to stored communications" statute > sec. 2701) has a hole in it that you could drive a battleship > through. *SIDEWAYS*. > It specifies that if you access the _facility_ in/on which the > messages are stored, "without authorization", or "in access of > authorization", and access/modify/delete messages, you have committed > a crime. There is also a blanket exemption for any acts "authorized" > by the owner of _the_ _facility_. > Sec 2511 is pretty clear that _it's_ prohibitions apply to messages > 'in transit', especially when you look at how 'intercepting' a message > is defined. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am curious, but how can an email > message be 'in transit'? While the packets are *on*the*wire* between the sending (origin) system, and the receiving (destination) system. > Its either 'here' or it is 'there' That is *NOT* the case. It has to _get_ from 'here' *to* 'there'. That does not occur 'by magic'. > or are > they referring to the 30 or 45 seconds after the sender hits his > 'enter' key (while the message travels on the wires from here to there > via somewhere else) before it lands in my box, at which point I would > think the 'in transit' stage has ended. Or does 'in transit' include > the time it spends sitting on my ISPs server until I call the ISP and > further retrieve it? No, 'in transit' does *not* include the time when the message is just sitting 'on disk', anywhere. If you tap the _wires_, and intercept the message _while_it_is_being_ _transmitted_ that is one thing. If you read the message while it is in storage, that is a totally *different* thing. > I like to think of email as I would think of > a traditional box at the post office. I am not standing there at the > post office box 24/7 with the door open waiting to immediatly grab > what is stuffed in from the clerk's side. Doesn't 'in transit' refer > to the time one carrier is handling my letter from the point where it > was picked up until it is placed in my physical possession? Short answer: NO. Factious illustration. You're 'on the road', from Chicago to Dallas. You stop for the night at a motel, And get all sorts of rambunctious, careless, etc. -- doing things that endanger yourself, and others. Even though you are 'on the road', you cannot be charged with 'reckless driving' for those activities, because you were not travelling on the roadway. The statutes don't actually use the language 'in transit' to describe the situation. The statutory language is a 'wire' communication. If it isn't _on_the_wire_, because it has already reached the destination, (or because it hasn't started transmission yet) it isn't a wire communication. If you commandeer a semi truck on the road, between start-point and end-point, that is 'hijacking', If you break into the warehouse at the terminal, and steal the load, that is 'theft'/'burglary', *not* hijacking. Wiretap statutes are similar. If you hijack (or copy) the message while it is 'on the wire', that's wire-tapping. if you break into a telephone answering machine (or voice-mail system), and get it to play back a previously recorded message, that is something *entirely* different. The same logic applies to e-mail. 'on the wire' _between_ sending and receiving servers is one thing; getting it from storage on the server is something quite different. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:27:27 -0600 From: jared@nospam.au (jared) Subject: Re: Start-Up Slashes Cost of International wireless Calls from wireless (USA) ... calls to wireless in most parts of the world attract a charge to the calling party ... substantial though nowhere near what the big USA telcos charge (from landline or wireless). > Cambridge firm uses Skype technology to make cellphone calls > By Peter J. Howe, Globe Staff | August 1, 2005 ------------------------------ From: Reed <reedh@rmi.net> Organization: None Whatsoever Subject: Re: Stock Market Ticker Tape Machines? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 03:37:39 GMT Robert Bonomi wrote: > In article <telecom24.364.8@telecom-digest.org>, > <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >> I was wondering what kind of machine, if any, replaced the classic >> glass-dome model and continued to produce a tape showing trades. > The volume of data, and the required speed of transmission to stay > more-or-less current with the actual market conditions outstripped the > capability of 'tape' printers. > Just as _telegram_ printing shifted to roll-feed wide paper, from the > tape, what remained for dedicated mechanical printers did similarly. > In the 60s, early-70s ... > Bunker-Ramo came out with electronic quote display terminals, and > practically owned the _broker_ market for a number of years. > Telerate also came out with a CRT display supporting many, _many_ > 'pages' of display data -- everything from news stories to lists of > latest market prices -- either as groups displayed simultaneously on a > single 'page', or single issues as a streaming 'ticker' across the > bottom of the screen. other desktop quote machine providers of the time were Ultronic, and Quotron. see http://claussstudios.bizland.com/realticker2.chtml for some pictures. -reed ------------------------------ From: DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> Subject: Re: Daylight-Saving Switch May Cause Tech Woes Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:18:39 -0600 Organization: Disorganized In message <telecom24.359.4@telecom-digest.org> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > By ANICK JESDANUN Associated Press Writer > NEW YORK (AP) -- When daylight-saving time starts earlier than usual > in the United States come 2007, your VCR or DVD recorder could start > recording shows an hour late. > Cell phone companies could give you an extra hour of free weekend > calls, and people who depend on online calendars may find themselves > late for appointments. > An energy bill President Bush is to sign Monday would start daylight > time three weeks earlier and end it a week later as an energy-saving > measure. > And that has technologists worried about software and gadgets that now > compensate for daylight time based on a schedule unchanged since 1987. 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