TELECOM Digest     Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:42:00 EST    Volume 24 : Issue 588

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Amtrack Passengers Stranded in Woods in GA (Associated Press NewsWire)
    Patent Firm Sues Google Over VOIP Calling (Reuters NewsWire)
    China Shuts 598 Web Sites Due to Porn and Spam Content (Associated Press)
    No Demarc Point! (J Kelly)
    Online Holiday Shoppers Spent Total of $30.1 Billion (Monty Solomon)
    Court OK Sought for Proposed [Sony BMG] Settlement (Monty Solomon)
    Verizon's TV Service Inks Carriage Deal (USTelecom dailyLead)
    Re: Cell Phone Extenders? (Rik)
    Re: Cell Phone Extenders? (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Cell Phone Extenders? (Thomas D. Horne, FF EMT)
    Re: Cell Phone Extenders? (Michael D. Sullivan)
    Re: Payphone Surcharges (was: Unanswered Cellphones) (John Levine)
    Re: Secret Court Modified Bush Wiretap Requests (Thomas Daniel Horne)
    Re: Physically Protecting The Local Loop Network? (Rich Greenberg)
    Re: NSA Puts Cookies on Your Computer (Steve Sobol)

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From: Associated Press News Wire <ap@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Amtrack Passengers Stranded in Woods in Georgia
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:50:26 -0600


A trainload of frustrated passengers has been stuck on an Amtrak train
stranded in a patch of woods in south Georgia for more than 24 hours.

Amtrak Train 98 has been stalled near Georgia's border with Florida
while engineers wait for a derailed CSX freight train to be removed.

Meanwhile, the train's passengers -- including many cash-strapped families
headed home from vacations -- are getting frustrated.

"We're stuck in the woods," said Eleanor Meyer. "People have ran out
of money buying food. This is unbelievable. You have to run to
different cars because certain cars have run out of toilet paper."

Meyer is trying to return to Poughkeepsie, N.Y., after taking her
19-year-old triplets Katherine, Christine and Janice to their first
trip to Orlando, Fla.

"I took this train because I'm afraid of flying," she said. "Right now
flying is the only way to go."

Young kids are cranky and scared, she said. The elderly are wondering
how their medicine will last longer. And Meyer herself is on the last
drops of the medicine treating her nasty cold.

Peter Nicholson of Newtown, Penn., is returning with his wife from a
visit to Orlando's theme parks. He said he's lucky he brought books to
read during the delay: The mammoth Lord of the Rings trilogy.

But he worries how long the passengers can hold out.

"You wonder how long you have to try to spread out your money and
where your food is coming from," he said. "There's nowhere to go if
you needed something. If anybody got sick, I don't know what they
would do."

The train left Orlando on Thursday around 1 p.m. and was delayed in
Jacksonville for roughly 12 hours. After moving for about two hours,
it's been held up in a patch of forest outside Savannah for now about
24 hours.

In all, eight Amtrak trains were affected by the delays, said Amtrak
spokesman Cliff Black.

Black said the CSX freight train's derailment came at a "choke point"
in the north-south lines that gives trains no chance to pass.

People who can't pay for food will be dealt with on a "case-by-case
basis," he said. "For now, there's plenty of food on the train."

"We're hopeful it will get moving very soon," he added, "We hope to
have the train moving and out of there sometime Friday night or Saturday.".

Back in the woods, passengers scoffed at the train's name, the Meteor.

"It's not a meteor," Meyer said. "But we do need a mediator. We really
need to be rescued. We were stalled there for about an hour before 
anyone from the crew bothered to come tell us what was going on."


Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.

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[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This must certainly be one of the
grander moments in the glorious history of the Toonerville Trolley.
If it has not occurred to Amtrack authorities by now to (a) either
split the wrecked train in two parts and clear the way or (b)
considering they were already delayed 12 hours in Jacksonville, simply
evacuate the trains passengers, bus them to the nearest airport and
have airplanes take everyone to their home town immediatly, then I do
not suppose another eight or ten hours stranded there will change
anything. I mean is anyone besides me old enough to remember when we
had real, honest-to-God reliable rail service in America?  PAT]

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From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Patent Firm Sues Google Over VOIP Calling
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:57:32 -0600


Rates Technology Inc., which holds patents for the process by which
most Internet phone calls are made, confirmed on Friday that it is
suing Google Inc. over its Web-based phone calling system.

New York-based RTI said it estimated that damages from the lawsuit
could reach $5 billion, assuming the litigation process takes four
years as the market for Internet-based phone services booms.

"Ordinarily we don't need to sue people to get them covered under our
patents," RTI President Jerry Weinberger told Reuters. "Every once in
a while we run into utter arrogance, as we are seeing with Google."

RTI holds two patents in the telecommunications field and generally
takes a one-time fee of up to $5 million to cover companies who
provide the services or the equipment to support them. It filed the
suit against Google in October.

Weinberger said companies covered under RTI patents include Yahoo Inc.
Microsoft Corp. and Verizon Communications.

RTI is currently holding talks with Time Warner Inc. about its Internet unit
AOL and with online auction site eBay for its Skype voice offering. RTI is
also locked in lawsuits with Cablevision for its cable voice service and
with broadband phone service company Vonage.

Google confirmed it would add instant messaging and Web-based phone
calling, known as Google Talk, to a growing menu of services it has
added to its core Web search functions.

Google officials were not immediately available to comment. Company
shares fell $4.75 to $415.40 in late morning trade.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited.

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From: Associated Press News Wire <ap@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: China Shuts 598 Web Sites Due to Porn and Spam
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:59:15 -0600


Chinese police have closed 598 Web sites in a crackdown on
pornography, along with online gambling, spam and fraud
which are growing, state media said Friday.

The latest crackdown, launched in March, led to 25 arrests, the China
Daily Newspaper said, citing figures from the Ministry of Public
Security. That figure was low compared with more than 500 people
arrested in a nationwide crackdown last year.

China has the world's second-largest population of Internet users
after the United States, with more than 100 million people online.

The communist government encourages Internet use for education and
business but has launched repeated campaigns to stamp out material
deemed obscene or subversive, including 'useless spam and fraud'.

In the heaviest reported sentence for online obscenity, a 20-year-old
Web site operator in eastern China was jailed in 2004 for 15 years for
selling downloads of sexually oriented movies.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.

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From: J Kelly <jkelly@newsguy.com>
Subject: No Demarc Point
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:51:34 -0600
Organization: http://newsguy.com
Reply-To: jkelly@newsguy.com


Is the telco required to have a network interface box at the point of
demarcartion?  My house has nothing, the line comes direct into the
basement.  It isn't even grounded and has no lightning protector.
Qwest refuses to do anything about it unless I pay for a NIB to be
installed.  What about grounding?  Shouldn't they be required to
ground the line in accordance with NEC?

I thought about grounding one side of the line and calling in a repair
order for hum on the line, when they come to check it at the NIB they
would have to install one.

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:28:46 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Online Holiday Shoppers Spent a Total of $30.1 Billion


     Online Holiday Shoppers Spent a Total of $30.1 Billion During
     2005 Holiday Season, Up 30 Percent from 2004, According to the
     eSpending Report from Goldman Sachs, Nielsen//NetRatings and
     Harris Interactive
     - Dec 29, 2005 11:00 AM (PR Newswire)

Apparel/Clothing, Computer Hardware/Peripherals and Consumer
Electronics Captured the Most Online Holiday Dollars This Year,
Showing Double to Triple-Digit Year-over-Year Growth; Record High in
Shoppers Choosing to Buy Online vs. Other Channels

ROCHESTER, N.Y. and NEW YORK, Dec. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- The Goldman,
Sachs & Co., Nielsen//NetRatings and Harris Interactive(R) fifth
annual Holiday eSpending Report revealed today that online holiday
shopping totaled $30.1 billion, excluding travel, during the 2005
holiday season (October 29 - December 23). This season's online
spending in the United States resulted in a 30 percent increase (+/-
3.1 percent margin of error) from the 2004 holiday season.

     - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=54307898

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:33:48 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Court OK Sought for Proposed [Sony BMG] Settlement


By LARRY NEUMEISTER Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- A proposed settlement of lawsuits against Sony BMG
Music Entertainment would let consumers receive free music downloads
to compensate them for Sony including flawed software on millions of
CDs, lawyers said Thursday.

Lawyers said the deal requires the world's second-largest music label
to stop manufacturing compact discs with MediaMax software or with
extended copy protection or XCP software that could leave computers
vulnerable to hackers.

The proposed settlement was submitted to U.S. District Court in
Manhattan on Wednesday. A judge was expected to decide in January
whether to tentatively approve it.

According to terms of the settlement, Sony BMG will let consumers who
bought the CDs receive replacement discs without the anti-piracy
technology and will let them choose one of two incentive packages.

The first package allows consumers who bought XCP CDs to obtain a cash
payment of $7.50 and a promotion code allowing them to download one
additional album from a list of more than 200 titles.

The second package permits them to download three additional albums
from the list. The court papers said Sony BMG would try to offer Apple
Computer Inc.'s iTunes as one of the download services available to
the consumers.

Those who purchased MediaMax CDs would receive additional compensation
to allow them to download non-content protected versions of music on
their MediaMax CDs and to download one additional album.

      - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=54320998

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:06:02 EST
From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com>
Subject: Verizon's TV Service Inks Carriage Deal With Sinclair


USTelecom dailyLead
December 30, 2005
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/AWsYatagCGcWcNAEIH

		TODAY'S HEADLINES
	
NEWS OF THE DAY
* Verizon's TV service inks carriage deal with Sinclair
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* Vodafone beefs up product development
* Intel wants to "leap ahead" with new logo
* Rural telecom in dispute with hedge fund manager
* India's BSNL pins future on wireless, broadband
USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT
* Best wishes for a safe and happy New Year from USTelecom
TECHNOLOGY TRENDS
* Microsoft believes gamers want to compete online
VOIP DOWNLOAD
* Chile's RedVoiss launches free VoIP service
* Cell Wireless buys ezTEL
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* NTP gets extension to file patent defense
* Time Warner Cable loses municipal fiber case
EDITOR'S NOTE
* The dailyLead will not publish Monday

Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/AWsYatagCGcWcNAEIH

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From: Rik <hrasmussen@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Extenders?
Date: 30 Dec 2005 06:39:40 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


 From FCC rules:

"Sec. 90.219 Use of signal boosters.

`Licensees authorized to operate radio systems in the frequency bands
above 150 MHz may employ signal boosters at fixed locations in
accordance with the following criteria:"

So the private unlicensed owner of the legal device has no legal
authority to operate it.

Rik

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Extenders?
Date: 30 Dec 2005 10:01:42 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


harold@hallikainen.com  <harold@hallikainen.com> wrote:

> Looks like these ARE legal! Go to
> https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm and
> use PZO (letter O) for the Grantee Code. Lots of information comes up.

The devices that repeat cellphone signals inside a structure _are_
legal if properly installed and type-accepted.

The devices which are basically linear amplifiers for the cellphone
are _not_ legal.  And a number of them have spurs in government bands
including the MLS band (a personal favorite).

--scott


"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: Thomas D. Horne, FF EMT <hornetd@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Extenders?
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:59:28 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


Rik wrote:

> Manufacturers and vendors of these active devices lie about their
> legality. The FCC has issued written clarifications and replied in
> writing to inquiries. In both instances they make it clear that it is
> only legal for licensees to install these BDAs. There are no licenses
> issued just to operate a BDA.

> One problem is that many of these devices, especially those sold to
> repeat Nextel signals, also repeat the signals of many other licensed
> systems.

> Much accurate information on this subject is available here:

> http://www.rfsolutions.com/

> I have no connection with that web site, but know the owner to be an
> expert on this subject.

> Rik Rasmussen
> Two Way Radio Directory
> http://twowayradiodirectory.com

I'm asking a question not starting a quarrel.

Does it make any difference if the booster in question is connected
directly to the cell phone and will only boost it's signal?  I have
been considering installing one in my truck in order to improve
performance in marginal situations.  I have been carrying an analog
bag phone for that but the cost for that extra account is high since
my carrier will not offer any low cost plans for analog use.  

-- Tom Horne

Well we aren't no thin blue heroes and yet we aren't no blackguards to.
We're just working men and woman most remarkable like you.

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From: Michael D. Sullivan <userid@camsul.example.invalid>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Extenders?
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:53:55 GMT


harold@hallikainen.com wrote:

> Looks like these ARE legal! Go to
> https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm and
> use PZO (letter O) for the Grantee Code. Lots of information comes up.

They are legal as Part 22, Part 24, or Part 90 licensed transmitters,
not as Part 15 unlicensed low-power devices.  All you need to do is
buy a cellular, PCS, or SMR license and you're good to go.  That's not
what they are portrayed as to the consumer, however.  The manuals for
these devices claim they are Part 15 compliant.  No way.

Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD (USA)
(Replace "example.invalid" with "com" in my address.)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But if you buy a cell phone and obtain
service from some carrier, aren't you granted a license (on the 
carrier's master license) to use the phone as a transmitter?  PAT]

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Date: 29 Dec 2005 21:07:09 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Payphone Surcharges (was: Unanswered Cellphones)
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA


> If I call an 800 (or 888?) number from a coin-operated payphone (e.g.,
> in an airport concourse), does the owner or operator of that 800
> number get charged 30 cents for each time I call (and they answer)?

Yes indeed.

> More specifically, does this apply to *all and every* 800 number
> owner?  Or do some 800 number owners negotiate special (that is, much
> cheaper) deals?

It's billed through the carrier that provides the 800 number, so I
would be rather surprised.  I suppose the payphone owner could rebate
part of the 30 cents to 800 number owners they like, but I don't know
why they would.

> And do some 800 number owners -- scumbag types, maybe -- just not pay
> these charges?  And if so, do they perhaps get away with not paying?

Unlikely.  It's part of the phone bill.  I have a bunch of 800 numbers
on my ECG bill, and when someone calls from a payphone, the call costs
55 cents more than it would otherwise and there's an "a" next to the
line on the bill.  I suppose there could be IXCs who don't pay their
payphone charges at all, but that would affect all of the company's
customers.


Regards,

John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 330 5711
johnl@iecc.com, Mayor, http://johnlevine.com, 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Wait a minute ... either an 800 call is 
a 'free call' to the caller or it is a chargeable call to the
caller. One or the other. If it costs me 35 cents, then it should be
referred to as a 'premium charge' call rather than a 'toll free' call
shouldn't it?  How does the recipient of the call know that the call
is originating from a COCOT style phone instead of a 'regular' line?
How does that fact (COCOT instead of regular) make any difference
where what the carriage costs telco?  Or is that 35 cents only to
appease the COCOT owner?  PAT]

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From: Thomas Daniel Horne <hornetd@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Secret Court Modified Bush Wiretap Requests
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:50:04 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net


Stewart M. Powell wrote:
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/253334_nsaspying24.html

> Secret court modified wiretap requests;
> Intervention may have led Bush to bypass panel.

> Saturday, December 24, 2005

> By STEWART M. POWELL
> SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON BUREAU

> WASHINGTON -- Government records show that the administration was
> encountering unprecedented second-guessing by the secret federal
> surveillance court when President Bush decided to bypass the panel and
> order surveillance of U.S.-based terror suspects without the court's
> approval.

> A review of Justice Department reports to Congress shows that the
> 26-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court modified more
> wiretap requests from the Bush administration than from the four
> previous presidential administrations combined.

> The court's repeated intervention in Bush administration wiretap
> requests may explain why the president decided to bypass the court
> nearly four years ago to launch secret National Security Agency spying
> on hundreds and possibly thousands of Americans and foreigners inside
> the United States, according to James Bamford, an acknowledged
> authority on the supersecret NSA, which intercepts telephone calls,
> e-mails, faxes and Internet communications.

> "They wanted to expand the number of people they were eavesdropping
> on, and they didn't think they could get the warrants they needed from
> the court to monitor those people," said Bamford, author of "Body of
> Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency" and
> "The Puzzle Palace: Inside America's Most Secret Intelligence
> Organization." "The FISA court has shown its displeasure by tinkering
> with these applications by the Bush administration."

> Bamford offered his speculation in an interview last week.

> The 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, adopted by Congress in
> the wake of President Nixon's misuse of the NSA and the CIA before his
> resignation over Watergate, sets a high standard for court-approved
> wiretaps on Americans and resident aliens inside the United States.

> To win a court-approved wiretap, the government must show "probable
> cause" that the target of the surveillance is a member of a foreign
> terrorist organization or foreign power and is engaged in activities
> that "may" involve a violation of criminal law.

> Faced with that standard, Bamford said, the Bush administration had
> difficulty obtaining FISA court-approved wiretaps on dozens of people
> within the United States who were communicating with targeted al-Qaida
> suspects inside the United States.

> The 11-judge court that authorizes FISA wiretaps has approved at least
> 18,740 applications for electronic surveillance or physical searches
> from five presidential administrations since 1979.

> The judges modified only two search warrant orders out of the 13,102
> applications that were approved over the first 22 years of the court's
> operation. In 20 of the first 21 annual reports on the court's
> activities up to 1999, the Justice Department told Congress that "no
> orders were entered (by the FISA court) which modified or denied the
> requested authority" submitted by the government.

> But since 2001, the judges have modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for
> court-ordered surveillance by the Bush administration. A total of 173
> of those court-ordered "substantive modifications" took place in 2003
> and 2004 -- the most recent years for which public records are
> available.

> The judges also rejected or deferred at least six requests for
> warrants during those two years -- the first outright rejection in the
> court's history.

> Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said last week that Bush authorized
> NSA surveillance of overseas communications by U.S.-based terror
> suspects because the FISA court's approval process was too cumbersome.

> The Bush administration, responding to concerns expressed by some
> judges on the 11-member panel, agreed last week to give them a
> classified briefing on the domestic spying program. U.S. District
> Judge Malcolm Howard, a member of the panel, told CNN that the Bush
> administration agreed to brief the judges after U.S. District Judge
> James Robertson resigned from the FISA panel, apparently to protest
> Bush's spying program.

> Bamford, 59, a Vietnam-era Navy veteran, likens the Bush administra-
> tion's domestic surveillance without court approval to Nixon-era
> abuses of intelligence agencies.

> NSA and previous eavesdropping agencies collected duplicates of all
> international telegrams to and from the United States for decades
> during the Cold War under a program code-named "Shamrock" before the
> program ended in the 1970s. A program known as "Minaret" tracked
> 75,000 Americans whose activities had drawn government interest
> between 1952 and 1974, including participation in the anti-war
> movement during the Vietnam War.

> "NSA prides itself on learning the lessons of the 1970s and obeying
> the legal restrictions imposed by FISA," Bamford said. "Now it looks
> like we're going back to the bad old days again."

> Copyright 1998-2005 Seattle Post-Intelligencer

All we have of freedom, all we use or know
This our fathers bought for us long and long ago.

Ancient Right unnoticed as the breath we draw
Leave to live by no man's leave, underneath the Law.
 ...
So they bought us freedom not at little cost
Wherefore must we watch the King, lest our gain be lost,

Over all things certain, this is sure indeed,
Suffer not the old King: for we know the breed.

Excerpted from The Old Issue by Rudyard Kipling

If any substantial number of Americans begin using encryption for
their ordinary emails even the NSA's Cray computers will bog down to a
crawl.

Since the NSA is no longer under the rule of law I have begun
encrypting my ordinary emails so the NSA will not know how boring my
life really is without investing computing time to find out.  Even the
NSA's resources are not unlimited.  We can jam this genie back into
it's bottle.  Encrypt your personal Email today and join a new main
stream civil liberties movement to protect the US from
totalitarianism.  

Tom Horne

"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve=20
neither and will lose both"  Benjamin Franklin



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would be interested in finding out if
anyone could assist me in encrypting _this Digest_ each day. Could 
anyone help with that?

Also, I _do_ need to speak with the gentleman who has helped me get
the Internet Historical Society back on line. Will you please call me
today or tomorrow, or email me. Thanks.  PAT]

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From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Physically Protecting The Local Loop Network?
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:42:44 UTC
Organization: Organized?  Me?


In article <telecom24.586.12@telecom-digest.org>, Steven Lichter
<Die@spammers.com> wrote:

> Rich Greenberg wrote:

>> I also had one of those many years ago.  I didn't have the bell box
>> that was normally used with it, so I took an induction coil from
>> another phone (probably a 300 series) and wired it up.  Worked fine.
>> That was 6 houses and 40+ years ago, and I have no idea where it is
>> now.

> Using that phone without its ringer box causes load on the line, low
> voice and such, the box has an induction coil.

You are correct, but note that I did wire it with an induction coil.


Rich Greenberg Marietta, GA, USA richgr atsign panix.com    + 1 770 321 6507
Eastern time.  N6LRT  I speak for myself & my dogs only.   VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val, Red & Shasta (RIP),Red, husky                   Owner:Chinook-L
Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/  Asst Owner:Sibernet-L

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From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: NSA Puts Cookies on Your Computer
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:40:06 -0800
Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com


jared wrote:

> Nothing unique about the site ... many commercial sites, esp for the
> cookies that appear to support advertising, cluster in the 2036-2038
> time frame.

It may have something to do with the fact that many web servers run
Unix, and the latest date that can be represented by a Unix 32-bit
date is sometime in 2038 (IIRC).


Steve Sobol, Professional Geek   888-480-4638   PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
Company website: http://JustThe.net/
Personal blog, resume, portfolio: http://SteveSobol.com/
E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307

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