IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE November 10th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Borman, David / Cray Research Crocker, Dave / TBO Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore AGENDA ------ This meeting was called to reach closure on ROAD related scheduling topics discussed in the November 9th teleconference. Specific topics to be resolved were: o Scheduling of Monday morning technical presentations. o Goals for this meeting o Specific timeline for making a decision on IPV7 Minutes ------- o Monday Morning Presentations At the November 9th teleconference, the IESG discussed the inclusion of a special presentation for CLNP to provide a basis for understanding TUBA. The IESG discussed and agreed that CLNP was part of the TUBA proposal and should be outlined as part of that proposal. DECISION: A special presentation for CLNP will not be scheduled in the limited time available for IPV7 Proposals Monday Morning. It has been suggested that IPAE and SIP are now merging into one and the same proposal. As a single proposal they should share a single presentation slot to allow more time for all presentations. The IESG discussed this and could not conclude that SIP and IPAE were the same proposals and agreed to continue with the agenda as published. DECISION: IPAE and SIP will not share a presentation slot. SIP has not yet been documented as an Internet Draft. This Internet Draft posting is a hard milestone for presentations and the IESG affirmed that an ID posting must be made by Wednesday November 11th for the SIP presentation to continue. ACTION: Almquist -- Call Steve Deering and remind him of the requirement that an ID posting is required for a Monday Morning plenary slot. ACTION: Coya -- Send an email message to Steve Deering to confirm that Deering understands the requirement that SIP be posted as an ID for a Monday morning plenary slot. o ROAD Goals for Washington. After further discussion, the IESG reconsidered the earlier position that the goal of this meeting was to choose a specific proposal. The IESG did not feel that it was reasonable to eliminate any proposals based on the presentations alone, and would prefer to base any decision on the traditional standardization process. That is, write specifications first, build implementations, demonstrate interoperability. and then evaluate the proposals in making a decision. POSITION: The IESG will not make it a goal to narrow the selection of IP Version 7 candidates at the November IETF meeting and will work to give specific feedback on each proposal based on the revised Criteria. o Goals and Milestones for IP Version 7 Proposals. In the likely event that all issues will not be clear enough coming out of the Nov IETF meeting to make a final selection for IPv7, the IESG adopted the following additional set of goals and milestones for the selection process. These goals are designed to make the choice between the proposals more clear by providing a concrete base for evaluation. December 15, 1992: Publish the final Selection Criteria as an RFC, as revised by the Criteria BOF at the November IETF. December 15, 1992: The IESG will post constructive feed back on each of the proposals presented in Washington based on the final Selection Criteria. February 12, 1992: At least two multiple interoperable implementations of the various proposals will be made available for community review. Binaries and man pages with detailed installation and operation instructions from at least 2 independent implementations should be posted for anonymous FTP. Source code and documentation is desired but not required. February 26, 1993: The second draft of the protocol report document should be posted with special attention to how the protocol meets the final Selection Criteria. Appendix - Action Items -------- ACTION: Almquist -- Call Steve Deering and remind him of the requirement that an ID posting is required for a Monday Morning plenary slot. ACTION: Coya -- Send an email message to Steve Deering to confirm that Deering understands the requirement that SIP be posted as an ID for a Monday morning plenary slot.