IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING June 10, 1993 Recorded by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary Reported by: John Stewart This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us. ATTENDEES --------- Bradner, Scott / Harvard Coya, Steve / CNRI Crocker, Dave / SGI Crocker, Steve / TIS Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Kahle, Brewster / WAIS Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Mankin, Allison / Locus Rose, Marshall / DBC Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI IAB Liaison Christian Huitema / INRIA Yakov Rekhter / IBM Regrets Chapin, Lyman / BBN Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Agenda 1. Administrivia o Roll Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of the Minutes - May 13th - May 27th o Announcements o Next meeting 2. Protocol Actions o Distributed Authentication Security Service o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX o IP Multicast over Token Ring o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay o OIM MIB o Bridge MIB 3. Management Issues o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director o RARE Technical Reports o Dynamic Host Configuration o Router Requirement o CIDR A/S o Working Group Management 4. RFC Editor Actions o Speedloader 5. Working Group Actions o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec) o Authorization and Access Control (aac) o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap) o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic) o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR) Minutes 1. Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes - May 13th deferred - May 27th deferred o Announcements This is Greg Vaudreuil's last IESG teleconference. John Stewart will serve as the IESG Secretary after Greg leaves. o Next meeting 24 June 11:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. EDT 2. Protocol Actions o Distributed Authentication Security Service The IESG approved the Internet-Draft "Distributed Authentication Security Service" for publication as an Experimental RFC. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce to IETF-Announce the IESG's decision to allow the "Distributed Authentication Security Service" Internet-Draft to be published as an Experimental RFC. o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains This document has not yet been reviewed by the Area Director. o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX The Area Director has some problems with how the document is being put forth. Erik will talk to the authors and then report back to the IESG. ACTION: Huizer -- Contact the authors of the "Assertion of C=US; A=IMX" Internet-Draft and report back to the IESG to summarize the issues. o IP Multicast over Token Ring The IESG approved the Internet-Draft "IP Multicast over Token Ring" as a Proposed Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "IP Multicast over Token Ring" as a Proposed Standard to IETF-Announce. o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay The IESG approved the Internet-Draft "Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay" as a Draft Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce. o OIM MIB The IESG approved moving "OIM MIB" to Historic status. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "OIM MIB" as Historic to IETF-Announce. o Bridge MIB The IESG approved the Internet-Draft "Definitions of Managed Objects for Bridges" as a Draft Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Definitions of Managed Objects for Bridges" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce. 3. Management Issues o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director Due to time constraints, Brewster will be stepping down. Erik Huizer needs help very soon, especially in light of the upcoming IETF. There was a proposal to appoint John Klensin as an interim Area Co-director. John is one of the most active members of the Applications Area directorate, and, according to Erik and Brewster, is currently the best candidate to fill the position. Christian Huitema believes that the IAB needs to approve any interim Area [Co]-director. No agreement was reached. An off- line teleconference will be scheduled to try and resolve the issue of IAB approval. The point of conflict is whether the IESG should be entitled to make temporary appointments, without approval of the IAB or its nominating committee, in what the IESG deems as emergency situations. ACTION: Gross -- Set up a teleconference with Gross, Huitema, SCrocker, Chapin, and anyone else in the IESG who wants to join, to discuss whether IAB approval is needed for IESG appointees for interim Area [Co]-directors. ACTION: Huietema -- Communicate to the IAB the IESG's desire to have an interim Applications Area Co-director soon. o Working Group Requirements Document The Working Group Requirements document will be posted as an Internet-Draft on Friday. o RARE Technical Reports The IESG agreed to allow the use of Internet-Drafts and RFCs for RARE documents. Jon Postel, RFC Editor, has indicated that this is acceptable as long as he retains RFC Editor control. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify Jon Postel of the IESG decision to allow Internet-Drafts and RFCs to be used for RARE documents. o Dynamic Host Configuration Dave Piscitello was not present. No action to report. o Router Requirement No action to report. o CIDR Applicability Statement There was discussion on whether the A/S should enumerate specific protocols or not. Bob Hinden said he would prefer that the document contain a list, but that he would go along with what the rest of the IESG decided. The decision made was not to list specific routing protocols, but rather have a separate AS for CIDR, and a separate AS for a common EGP. There are some remaining details that will be worked out in a teleconference. ACTION: Hinden and Rekhter -- Have conference call to get the specifics of what parts of CIDR should be included in the AS, and what, if anything, should be in any companion document(s). ACTION: Hinden -- Post a reviced CIDR draft by Friday 18 June. o Registering MIME extensions There has been significant confusion about the procedure for registering MIME content types, charsets, and content transfer- encodings. The Gopher people expressed concern about the apparent difficulty of doing this. ACTION: Huizer -- Send mail to IESG with possible resolution to problem of registering MIME extensions. 4. RFC Editor Actions o Speedloader The IESG determined that this document on machine-readable bibliographies is similar to other work going on in the IETF. A two week extension will be requested from the RFC Editor so that the IESG can discuss with the author the plan of convening a BOF at the next IETF meeting to review these several similar proposals. ACTION: Huizer -- Work with the authors to for a BOF to discuss these machine-readable bibliography-related proposals. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Ask the RFC Editor for an extension while the IESG talks to the authors. 5. Working Group Actions o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec) o Authorization and Access Control (aac) These working group charters have been held up awaiting a security architecture statement. This statement has been delayed, and these otherwise reasonable working groups are now in a scheduling bind. The IESG agreed to approve the working groups in two weeks if the architecture statement is approved, or as soon as it is submitted to the IESG. Meanwhile, these groups will be given permission to schedule a session at the Amsterdam IETF. ACTION: SCrocker -- Send the security architecture statement to the IESG so that approval of the ipsec and aac working groups can happen on the list. ACTION: SCrocker -- Authorize the ipsec and aac groups to meet in Amsterdam. o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap) The IESG approved this working group. o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic) Erik is waiting for a response from proposed chairs on the changes suggested by the IAB. o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR) Because the charter was just submitted, this decision will be deferred for two weeks. The group is authorized to meet in Amsterdam. ACTION: Hinden -- Communicate to the prospective IDMR working group chairs the IESG decision to allow them to meet in Amsterdam. 6. Tasked Items o IETF Charter No action to report.